[ajug-members] Java Certification - Worth it?

[Ian Roof]

I am new to Java as well.  Junior at Georgia Gwinnett College currently
taking intermediate.  I am also new to AJUG.  I greatly appreciate the
advice and direction.  I am in the situation that I have a family and won't
have the opportunity to do any internships.  So any advice to breaking into
the coding field is appreciated.

Thanks again,
Ian Roof

P.S. When and Where are the AJUG meetings?

On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 8:16 PM, gmail <acidbriggs at gmail.com> wrote:

> In my my 12 years of working with Java as my main career language, I have
> never taken a Java certification into account when interviewing a potential
> hire. I have also never known a company (other than a silly headhunter) to
> take this into account either. It really means nothing. No, I take that
> back... It proves you read a book and spent money on a test that you got a
> minimum of, what is it now, 61%?  61! Can you believe that? It's a joke and
> a silly revenue stream for Oracle.
>
> Do what you will, this is just my opinion.  I recommend you get yourself a
> GitHub account, create your resume by writing code and having it available
> to potential companies.
>
> To learn Java just do the free thing, read the Java tutorial available on
> Oracle's site (http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/) to start with.
> Whatever you do, do not read that awful Dietel "Java. How to Program". That
> thing has to be the worst example of how to write OO code I have ever read.
> I use to evaluate training materials for a very large organization (250+
> developers) and this was the bottom of the list.  Sadly, they use this in
> so many schools. Probably because it's one of the only textbook format java
> books out there.
>
> I am a huge fan of O'Reilly's Safari bookshelf for reference too. I have
> the unlimited access, which can be pricey if you can't put up the funds.
>  But, even the limited one for a month or two can get you access to a ton
> of vetted info.
>
> Also learn by looking at the code of a popular API. Pick JUnit or
> something like that. It's well written and uses some nice patterns.  Or,
> just peruse GitHub, Apache or google code for some code to play with.
>
> Anyway, rant/advice over.
>
> Welcome aboard the Java train.
>
> --Briggs
>
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Rino <kaaskop at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have recently stumbled into the world of Java, decided I like it, and
> would like to learn more.
> > In the last 10 years I have done some light programming, almost all of
> it in VB and some C#, and in the last 6 months in Java.
> >
> > I am thinking about going for Java certification, mainly as a way for me
> to learn more about programming in Java.
> > I'd be interested in opinions on whether certification is worth the
> effort, and what the value of certification is in the job market.
> >
> > I work with Java right now in a QA position (Java + Selenium WebDriver),
> and would like to transition to a developer role in the future.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Rino
> >
> >
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