From chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com  Thu Jul  2 16:39:19 2009
From: chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com (Chinmay Nagarkar)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:39:19 -0700
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal
	information
In-Reply-To: <91cd8aa10906220818j7c380d5aia138abe04bb09c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91cd8aa10906220818j7c380d5aia138abe04bb09c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I have seen few people putting religious content into their email signature.
Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are technical
lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment allows us
free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.

-Chinmay

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>
> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on the
> Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so I
> advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these
> lists.
>
> - Quadir
>
> --
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters,
> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'r?f
> (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do), and forbid
> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
> that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give
> the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His Mercy on
> them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
> 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
> of All?h. That is the supreme success.
>
> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
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From dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com  Thu Jul  2 16:47:32 2009
From: dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com (Dean H. Saxe)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:47:32 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal
	information
In-Reply-To: <3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91cd8aa10906220818j7c380d5aia138abe04bb09c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CA03687-34A4-43E9-A8DD-48AEF6BEE573@fullfrontalnerdity.com>

Actually, the First Amendment prevents the government from limiting  
speech, not private enterprise:

"The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of  
the United States Bill of Rights that expressly prohibits the United  
States Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of  
religion" or that prohibit the free exercise of religion, infringe the  
freedom of speech, infringe the freedom of the press, limit the right  
to peaceably assemble, or limit the right to petition the government  
for a redress of grievances.

Although the First Amendment only explicitly applies to the Congress,  
the Supreme Court has interpreted it as applying to the executive and  
judicial branches. Additionally, in the 20th century, the Supreme  
Court held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment  
applies the limitations of the First Amendment to each state,  
including any local government within a state."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_amendment

-dhs

Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com
"Dissent is the purest form of patriotism."
     --Thomas Jefferson



On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email  
> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists  
> are technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First  
> Amendment allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense  
> is caused.
>
> -Chinmay
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah  
> <quadir at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication  
> to AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job.  
> Please CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.
>
> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public  
> on the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists 
>  so I advise against including personal information in your emails  
> sent to these lists.
>
> - Quadir
>
> -- 
> ************************************************************************************
>
> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers,  
> supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the  
> people) Al-Ma'r?f (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders  
> one to do), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and  
> disbelief of all kinds, and all that Isl?m has forbidden); they  
> perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give the Zak?t, and obey  
> All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His Mercy on them. Surely  
> All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
> 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens  
> under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful  
> mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss  
> is the Good Pleasure of All?h. That is the supreme success.
>
> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members



From quadir at gmail.com  Thu Jul  2 18:38:40 2009
From: quadir at gmail.com (Quadir Kareemullah)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 18:38:40 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal
	information
In-Reply-To: <3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91cd8aa10906220818j7c380d5aia138abe04bb09c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91cd8aa10907021538w2334c5a5i25ddbd7619ac5e3d@mail.gmail.com>

Chinmay,

Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the
mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out
of such a trivial issue.

Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone
want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o
t g m a i l d o t c o m.

- Quadir



On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar <chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>
> -Chinmay
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>>
>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
>> the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingListsso I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to
>> these lists.
>>
>> - Quadir
>>
>> --
>>
>> ************************************************************************************
>>
>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters,
>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'r?f
>> (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do), and forbid
>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
>> that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give
>> the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His Mercy on
>> them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>> 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
>> of All?h. That is the supreme success.
>>
>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>
>>
>> ************************************************************************************
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>


-- 
************************************************************************************
Bismillahirahmanirraheem
(In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)

1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
fingers.
5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue
committing sins.
6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other
or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
11. No! There is no refuge!
12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or
good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).

THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):

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From david_caswell at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  2 19:22:22 2009
From: david_caswell at yahoo.com (David Caswell)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:22:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal
	information
In-Reply-To: <91cd8aa10907021538w2334c5a5i25ddbd7619ac5e3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91cd8aa10906220818j7c380d5aia138abe04bb09c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>
	<91cd8aa10907021538w2334c5a5i25ddbd7619ac5e3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <796722.76639.qm@web54108.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

http://www.netmanners.com/email-etiquette/dos-and-donts-of-signature-file-use/http://www.netmanners.com/email-etiquette/dos-and-donts-of-signature-file-use/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_blockhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_blockhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_blockhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block




________________________________
From: Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com>
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:38:40 PM
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information

Chinmay,

Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out of such a trivial issue. 

Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o t g m a i l d o t c o m. 

- Quadir




On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar <chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I have seen few people putting religious content into their email signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>
>-Chinmay
>
>
>On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Hi All,
>>
>>I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email. 
>>
>>Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these lists.
>>
>>- Quadir
>>
>>-- 
>>************************************************************************************
>>
>>9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'r?f (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His Mercy on them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>>>>
>>
>>9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of All?h. That is the supreme success.
>>
>>-- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>
>>************************************************************************************
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>>>ajug-members mailing list
>>ajug-members at ajug.org
>>http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>>ajug-members mailing list
>ajug-members at ajug.org
>http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>


-- 
************************************************************************************
Bismillahirahmanirraheem
(In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)

1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers.
5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue committing sins.
6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
11. No! There is no refuge!
12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin, hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).

THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):

************************************************************************************
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From rlopublic at ovrevik.com  Thu Jul  2 22:19:45 2009
From: rlopublic at ovrevik.com (Ryan Ovrevik)
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:19:45 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal
	information
In-Reply-To: <91cd8aa10907021538w2334c5a5i25ddbd7619ac5e3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91cd8aa10906220818j7c380d5aia138abe04bb09c5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com> 
	<91cd8aa10907021538w2334c5a5i25ddbd7619ac5e3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cb43639d0907021919k23b4e156w564eb6637d25a477@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think Chinmay made "a big deal out of such a trivial issue". I
think that it was non-confrontational and courteous.

Personally, I would prefer to not see religious signatures on this (or
any) list.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Quadir Kareemullah<quadir at gmail.com> wrote:
> Chinmay,
>
> Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
> signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the
> mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
> always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out
> of such a trivial issue.
>
> Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone
> want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o
> t g m a i l d o t c o m.
>
> - Quadir
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar
> <chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
>> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
>> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
>> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>>
>> -Chinmay
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
>>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
>>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>>>
>>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
>>> the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so
>>> I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> - Quadir
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters,
>>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'r?f
>>> (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do), and forbid
>>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
>>> that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give
>>> the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His Mercy on
>>> them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>>> 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
>>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
>>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
>>> of All?h. That is the supreme success.
>>>
>>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>>
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ************************************************************************************
> Bismillahirahmanirraheem
> (In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)
>
> 1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
> 2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
> 3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
> 4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
> fingers.
> 5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue
> committing sins.
> 6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
> 7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
> 8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
> 9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other
> or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
> 10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
> 11. No! There is no refuge!
> 12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
> 13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or
> good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
> 14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
> hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
> 15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).
>
> THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>


From pjmilazzo at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  3 11:18:12 2009
From: pjmilazzo at yahoo.com (Paul Milazzo)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:18:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal
	information
Message-ID: <599817.16151.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Amen to that...

Oops!

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic at ovrevik.com> wrote:

From: Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic at ovrevik.com>
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:19 PM

I don't think Chinmay made "a big deal out of such a trivial issue". I
think that it was non-confrontational and courteous.

Personally, I would prefer to not see religious signatures on this (or
any) list.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Quadir Kareemullah<quadir at gmail.com> wrote:
> Chinmay,
>
> Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
> signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the
> mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
> always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out
> of such a trivial issue.
>
> Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone
> want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o
> t g m a i l d o t c o m.
>
> - Quadir
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar
> <chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
>> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
>> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
>> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>>
>> -Chinmay
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
>>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
>>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>>>
>>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
>>> the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so
>>> I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> - Quadir
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters,
>>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'r?f
>>> (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do), and forbid
>>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
>>> that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give
>>> the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His Mercy on
>>> them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>>> 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
>>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
>>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
>>> of All?h. That is the supreme success.
>>>
>>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>>
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ************************************************************************************
> Bismillahirahmanirraheem
> (In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)
>
> 1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
> 2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
> 3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
> 4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
> fingers.
> 5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue
> committing sins.
> 6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
> 7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
> 8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
> 9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other
> or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
> 10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
> 11. No! There is no refuge!
> 12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
> 13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or
> good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
> 14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
> hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
> 15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).
>
> THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>

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From timtw at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  3 14:43:19 2009
From: timtw at earthlink.net (Tim Watts)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:43:19 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal
	information
In-Reply-To: <3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91cd8aa10906220818j7c380d5aia138abe04bb09c5@mail.gmail.com>
	<3164809b0907021339u596fd0e5x506a7a1181b2119b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200907031443.19609.timtw@earthlink.net>

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live 
as one wishes to live.
 -- Oscar Wilde

Expressing one's personal beliefs is not necessarily asking others to believe. 
It /is/ something that should be tolerated in a reasonably open society -- of 
which I hope AJUG is a part. To be offended by another's personal beliefs is 
more a problem for the offendee than the offender. (And a good solution, BTW, 
is to realize that disagreeing with someone's viewpoint doesn't necessarily 
mean we're being oppressed by it.)

If someone is inclined to express something about who they are unrelated to 
the context of the email message then I guess the email sig would be just the 
place to put it. That said, netiquette has something to say about the length 
of one's sig...

Happy Independence Day everyone!


On Thursday 02 July 2009 4:39:19 pm Chinmay Nagarkar wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>
> -Chinmay
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com>wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
> > AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please
> > CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.
> >
> > Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
> > the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists
> > so I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to
> > these lists.
> >
> > - Quadir
> >
> > --
> >
> > *************************************************************************
> >***********
> >
> > 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters,
> > friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people)
> > Al-Ma'r?f (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do),
> > and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all
> > kinds, and all that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t
> > (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger.
> > All?h will have His Mercy on them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
> > 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
> > which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
> > Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good
> > Pleasure of All?h. That is the supreme success.
> >
> > -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
> >
> >
> > *************************************************************************
> >***********
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ajug-members mailing list
> > ajug-members at ajug.org
> > http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members

-- 
There is no daily democracy without daily citizenship.
 -- Ralph Nader




From Rajesha.Indurthivenkata at equifax.com  Fri Jul  3 15:10:32 2009
From: Rajesha.Indurthivenkata at equifax.com (Rajesha.Indurthivenkata at equifax.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:10:32 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and
	personal	information
In-Reply-To: <599817.16151.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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From Olivia.West at ca.com  Fri Jul  3 15:55:23 2009
From: Olivia.West at ca.com (West, Olivia G)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:55:23 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes
	andpersonal	information
Message-ID: <DC9BBDB532A5F44E8FF533B17B199D81AD700B@USILMS16.ca.com>

I would prefer not to get a bunch of emails for two days about nonsense! 

________________________________

From: Rajesha.Indurthivenkata at equifax.com <Rajesha.Indurthivenkata at equifax.com> 
To: ajug-members at ajug.org <ajug-members at ajug.org> 
Cc: ajug-members at ajug.org <ajug-members at ajug.org> 
Sent: Fri Jul 03 15:10:32 2009
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes andpersonal information 




Absolutely makes sense to me..I would prefer not to see any religious signature in a technical group like AJUG, because I dont want to spenf time reading religious signatures.
Regards
Rajesh Indurthi
Equifax InterConnect Core Team
Desk: 770 740 5233
Cell: 309 643 7665

Paul Milazzo <pjmilazzo at yahoo.com>






				Paul Milazzo <pjmilazzo at yahoo.com> 

				07/03/2009 11:18 AM
	
	Please respond to
ajug-members at ajug.org



To

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cc

	


Subject

Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information	
		
Amen to that...

Oops!

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic at ovrevik.com> wrote:

From: Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic at ovrevik.com>
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:19 PM

I don't think Chinmay made "a big deal out of such a trivial issue". I
think that it was non-confrontational and courteous.

Personally, I would prefer to not see religious signatures on this (or
any) list.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Quadir Kareemullah<quadir at gmail.com> wrote:
> Chinmay,
>
> Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
> signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the
> mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
> always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out
> of such a trivial issue.
>
> Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone
> want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o
> t g m a i l d o t c o m.
>
> - Quadir
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar
> <chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
>> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
>> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
>> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>>
>> -Chinmay
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
>>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
>>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>>>
>>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
>>> the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists <http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists>  so
>>> I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> - Quadir
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters,
>>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'r?f
>>> (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do), and forbid
>>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
>>> that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) and give
>>> the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His Mercy on
>>> them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>>> 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
>>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
>>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
>>> of All?h. That is the supreme success.
>>>
>>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>>
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members <http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members> 
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members <http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members> 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ************************************************************************************
> Bismillahirahmanirraheem
> (In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)
>
> 1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
> 2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
> 3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
> 4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
> fingers.
> 5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue
> committing sins.
> 6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
> 7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
> 8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
> 9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other
> or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
> 10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
> 11. No! There is no refuge!
> 12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
> 13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or
> good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
> 14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
> hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
> 15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).
>
> THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members <http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members> 
>
>

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From 521 at ofig.org  Fri Jul  3 17:25:06 2009
From: 521 at ofig.org (521)
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:25:06 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes	andpersonal
 information
In-Reply-To: <DC9BBDB532A5F44E8FF533B17B199D81AD700B@USILMS16.ca.com>
References: <DC9BBDB532A5F44E8FF533B17B199D81AD700B@USILMS16.ca.com>
Message-ID: <4A4E7732.9000604@ofig.org>

well said... hehe

West, Olivia G wrote:
> I would prefer not to get a bunch of emails for two days about nonsense!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From*: Rajesha.Indurthivenkata at equifax.com 
> <Rajesha.Indurthivenkata at equifax.com>
> *To*: ajug-members at ajug.org <ajug-members at ajug.org>
> *Cc*: ajug-members at ajug.org <ajug-members at ajug.org>
> *Sent*: Fri Jul 03 15:10:32 2009
> *Subject*: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes 
> andpersonal information
>
>
> Absolutely makes sense to me..I would prefer not to see any religious 
> signature in a technical group like AJUG, because I dont want to spenf 
> time reading religious signatures.
> Regards
> Rajesh Indurthi
> Equifax InterConnect Core Team
> Desk: 770 740 5233
> Cell: 309 643 7665
>
> Inactive hide details for Paul Milazzo <pjmilazzo at yahoo.com>Paul 
> Milazzo <pjmilazzo at yahoo.com>
>
>
>
>
>                         *Paul Milazzo <pjmilazzo at yahoo.com>*
>
>                         07/03/2009 11:18 AM
>                         Please respond to
>                         ajug-members at ajug.org
>
> 	
>
> To
> 	
> ajug-members at ajug.org
>
> cc
> 	
>
> Subject
> 	
> Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal 
> information
>
> 	
>
> Amen to that...
>
> Oops!
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/2/09, Ryan Ovrevik **/<rlopublic at ovrevik.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic at ovrevik.com>
> Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and 
> personal information
> To: ajug-members at ajug.org
> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:19 PM
>
> I don't think Chinmay made "a big deal out of such a trivial issue". I
> think that it was non-confrontational and courteous.
>
> Personally, I would prefer to not see religious signatures on this (or
> any) list.
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Quadir Kareemullah<_quadir at gmail.com_ 
> </mc/compose?to=quadir at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Chinmay,
> >
> > Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
> > signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content 
> to the
> > mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
> > always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big 
> deal out
> > of such a trivial issue.
> >
> > Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you 
> or anyone
> > want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d 
> i r d o
> > t g m a i l d o t c o m.
> >
> > - Quadir
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar
> > <_chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com_ 
> </mc/compose?to=chinmay.nagarkar at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
> >> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing 
> Lists are
> >> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First 
> Amendment
> >> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
> >>
> >> -Chinmay
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah 
> <_quadir at gmail.com_ </mc/compose?to=quadir at gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other 
> communication to
> >>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. 
> Please CHECK
> >>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
> >>>
> >>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are 
> public on
> >>> the Internet at 
> _http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists_ so
> >>> I advise against including personal information in your emails 
> sent to these
> >>> lists.
> >>>
> >>> - Quadir
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> 
> ************************************************************************************
> >>>
> >>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliy?' (helpers, supporters,
> >>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) 
> Al-Ma'r?f
> >>> (i.e. Isl?mic Monotheism and all that Isl?m orders one to do), and 
> forbid
> >>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all 
> kinds, and all
> >>> that Isl?m has forbidden); they perform As-Sal?t (Iq?mat-as-Sal?t) 
> and give
> >>> the Zak?t, and obey All?h and His Messenger. All?h will have His 
> Mercy on
> >>> them. Surely All?h is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
> >>> 9.72 All?h has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens 
> under
> >>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
> >>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the 
> Good Pleasure
> >>> of All?h. That is the supreme success.
> >>>
> >>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
> ************************************************************************************
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> ajug-members mailing list
> >>> _ajug-members at ajug.org_ </mc/compose?to=ajug-members at ajug.org>
> >>> _http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members_
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ajug-members mailing list
> >> _ajug-members at ajug.org_ </mc/compose?to=ajug-members at ajug.org>
> >> _http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members_
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 
> ************************************************************************************
> > Bismillahirahmanirraheem
> > (In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)
> >
> > 1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
> > 2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
> > 3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
> > 4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
> > fingers.
> > 5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to 
> continue
> > committing sins.
> > 6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
> > 7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
> > 8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
> > 9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into 
> the other
> > or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
> > 10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
> > 11. No! There is no refuge!
> > 12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
> > 13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his 
> evil or
> > good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
> > 14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
> > hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
> > 15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).
> >
> > THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):
> >
> > 
> ************************************************************************************
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ajug-members mailing list
> > _ajug-members at ajug.org_ </mc/compose?to=ajug-members at ajug.org>
> > _http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members_
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list_
> __ajug-members at ajug.org_ </mc/compose?to=ajug-members at ajug.org>_
> __http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members_
>
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> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
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> confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, 
> please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of 
> this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you 
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> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>   


From timtw at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  3 21:00:25 2009
From: timtw at earthlink.net (Tim Watts)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:00:25 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] OSGi framework impls (aka: we now return to our
	regularly scheduled programming...)
Message-ID: <200907032100.25491.timtw@earthlink.net>

Hi,

Anyone have experience designing/building apps using an OSGi framework? More 
specifically, I'm looking at Apache's Felix and Eclipse's Equinox. Which one 
do you think is more stable, robust? Are there better impls? Are there any 
special design considerations that come into play using these?

Thanks.


-- 
When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human 
race.
 -- H. G. Wells
__O
_-\<,_
(_)/ (_)



From mstobo at us.ibm.com  Mon Jul  6 15:59:19 2009
From: mstobo at us.ibm.com (Matthew Stobo)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:59:19 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Java development in the Cloud and php/groovy
	development with Project Zero/sMash
Message-ID: <OF450DF1CD.ACBF95BA-ON852575EB.0057A251-852575EB.006DCC32@us.ibm.com>

If anyone is looking for some information on developing in internal or 
external clouds like Amazon eC2 there is a interesting presentation on 
this topic at the WebSphere User's group on July 9th.


Meeting Date: Jul 9th, 2009 
Meeting time: 9:00 am - 12:00 pm
Meeting location: IBM 4111 Northside Parkway Atlanta, GA
Meeting topic: WebSphere in the Clouds
Agenda: 
Directions: 
Summary: Join us for a discussion around Cloud Computing and WebSphere's 
place in the cloud. 

WebSphere CloudBurst Appliance 

Cloud computing is a popular trend in the IT industry today, and IBM 
WebSphere has several offerings helping users to leverage cloud solutions. 
For private enterprise clouds, WebSphere is offering both the WebSphere 
Application Server Hypervisor Edition and the WebSphere CloudBurst 
Appliance. The new offerings provide a virtual image edition of the 
WebSphere Application Server and a solution that helps users to create, 
deploy, and maintain WebSphere environments in a private cloud. In 
addition, WebSphere has also partnered with Amazon to make its software 
available on Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2). This partnership allows 
users to run WebSphere software on a cloud that is managed by Amazon. 


Speaker: Dustin Amrhein joined IBM as a member of the development team for 
WebSphere Application Server. While in that position, Dustin worked 
primarily on Web services infrastructure and Web services programming 
models. In addition, Dustin worked on the development of a RESTful 
services framework for Java runtimes. In his current role, Dustin is a 
technical evangelist for emerging technologies in IBM???s WebSphere 
portfolio. 


WebSphere sMash 

WebSphere sMash v1.1 enables developers to quickly build and execute 
agile, Web 2.0-based applications that help businesses be more responsive, 
flexible and cost-effective. As a fast and simple application foundation, 
WebSphere sMash advances Smart SOA and accelerates business and IT 
alignment. It supports some of today's hottest dynamic scripting languages 
??? PHP and Groovy ??? and provides an agile web application development 
environment that has a small footprint, is easy to modify and is fast to 
re-start. You can also use WebSphere sMash V1.1 in the Amazon Elastic 
Compute Cloud environment. Develop your applications on Amazon Elastic 
Compute Cloud (EC2), an Amazon Web service, using the WebSphere sMash V1.1 
AMI. WebSphere sMash enables developers to quickly build and execute 
agile, Web 2.0-based applications that help businesses be more responsive, 
flexible and cost-effective. 


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From pratik.r.patel at gmail.com  Fri Jul 17 12:16:16 2009
From: pratik.r.patel at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:16:16 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
Message-ID: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>

This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
Meeting location and details:
http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252

Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on day
following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would like
to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email me
directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
monday.

ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
* JMS
* Groovy
* Grails
* Grails JMS Plugin
* Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
* Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
* ActiveMQ sidebar
- how does activemq work with Grails
- embedded ActiveMQ
- defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
* Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
- Grails Camel plugin
- defining camel filters and endpoints
* Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
- AMQ console


From JLarrazabal at cfglife.com  Fri Jul 17 16:02:15 2009
From: JLarrazabal at cfglife.com (JLarrazabal at cfglife.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:02:15 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Larrazabal, Jose is out of the office.
Message-ID: <OFFB7FA3FD.E5C58F31-ON852575F6.006E11E5-852575F6.006E11E6@cfglife.com>


I will be out of the office starting  07/16/2009 and will not return until
07/19/2009.

I will respond to your message when I return.



From lkwoody at gmail.com  Sat Jul 18 11:11:53 2009
From: lkwoody at gmail.com (Laura Moore)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:11:53 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <894dcafe0907180811t54968b7qe0a735d96596c237@mail.gmail.com>

no preference on this or next week


From lkwoody at gmail.com  Sat Jul 18 11:41:20 2009
From: lkwoody at gmail.com (Laura Moore)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:41:20 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <894dcafe0907180841i2773ded6v8d53c078e0ec8e37@mail.gmail.com>

changed mind on meeting day.  next wed is the owasp meeting


From pratik.r.patel at gmail.com  Sat Jul 18 12:30:19 2009
From: pratik.r.patel at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:30:19 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <894dcafe0907180841i2773ded6v8d53c078e0ec8e37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
	<894dcafe0907180841i2773ded6v8d53c078e0ec8e37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <419803e80907180930o5113d9d5v5e991bf76c2e3ce1@mail.gmail.com>

what is owasp? and I assume this wed is good for you then...

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Laura Moore<lkwoody at gmail.com> wrote:
> changed mind on meeting day. ?next wed is the owasp meeting
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>


From silveranvil at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 07:55:23 2009
From: silveranvil at gmail.com (SilverAnvil)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:55:23 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a93e1100907200455p26736818m6ade84173f1f6998@mail.gmail.com>

This Wednesday (22nd) is better for me.  BTW, I have some Groovy
goodies to give away.
Burk
"Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)



On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pratik Patel<pratik.r.patel at gmail.com> wrote:
> This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
> Meeting location and details:
> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>
> Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on day
> following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would like
> to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email me
> directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
> monday.
>
> ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
> Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
> * JMS
> * Groovy
> * Grails
> * Grails JMS Plugin
> * Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
> * Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
> * ActiveMQ sidebar
> - how does activemq work with Grails
> - embedded ActiveMQ
> - defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
> * Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
> - Grails Camel plugin
> - defining camel filters and endpoints
> * Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
> - AMQ console
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>


From gunnar at hillert.com  Mon Jul 20 08:23:19 2009
From: gunnar at hillert.com (Gunnar Hillert)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:23:19 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout
Message-ID: <4A6461B7.1020205@hillert.com>

Hi AJUG members!

The July AJUG meeting is here. Why not spend some quality
time before the meeting kicks off, networking with some other AJUG
folks?

We will meet on *Tuesday, July 21 around 5:00-5:30* at
*Garcia's Mexican Restaurant*. Garcia's is located in the Georgetown 
Shopping
Center on the other side of I-285 from the AJUG meeting location
(Holiday Inn Select).

This is just a loose, informal time to hang out and get to know each
other before we head over to the meeting for our monthly dose of
mind-altering Java insights.

Why waste an hour working late at the office before you head to AJUG?
Come join us for some good food, good beverages, and good fun.

Specifics for finding Garcia's:

Garcia's Mexican Restaurant
4514 Chamblee Dunwoody Road
Atlanta, GA 30338
770-458-6122

You can find the google map at http://tinyurl.com/p5an5

To get to Garcia's simply head north on Chamblee Dunwoody Road when
exiting from I-285. Garcia's is in the Georgetown shopping center on
your left, between Kroger and Starbucks.

Hope you can make it!

Ciao,

Gunnar
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From tosehee at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 09:07:35 2009
From: tosehee at gmail.com (Se Hee Lee)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:07:35 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout
In-Reply-To: <4A6461B7.1020205@hillert.com>
References: <4A6461B7.1020205@hillert.com>
Message-ID: <3b0b2a0c0907200607j28c27758rfe41ddbb82937d06@mail.gmail.com>

Hello.

I am new to AJUG, so I think this is a great opportunity for me to introduce
myself and get to know other people.

Is this open to new people or is it for an existing members only?



On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Hillert <gunnar at hillert.com> wrote:

>  Hi AJUG members!
>
> The July AJUG meeting is here. Why not spend some quality
> time before the meeting kicks off, networking with some other AJUG
> folks?
>
> We will meet on *Tuesday, July 21 around 5:00-5:30* at
> *Garcia's Mexican Restaurant*. Garcia's is located in the Georgetown
> Shopping
> Center on the other side of I-285 from the AJUG meeting location
> (Holiday Inn Select).
>
> This is just a loose, informal time to hang out and get to know each
> other before we head over to the meeting for our monthly dose of
> mind-altering Java insights.
>
> Why waste an hour working late at the office before you head to AJUG?
> Come join us for some good food, good beverages, and good fun.
>
> Specifics for finding Garcia's:
>
> Garcia's Mexican Restaurant
> 4514 Chamblee Dunwoody Road
> Atlanta, GA 30338
> 770-458-6122
>
> You can find the google map at http://tinyurl.com/p5an5
>
> To get to Garcia's simply head north on Chamblee Dunwoody Road when
> exiting from I-285. Garcia's is in the Georgetown shopping center on
> your left, between Kroger and Starbucks.
>
> Hope you can make it!
>
> Ciao,
>
> Gunnar
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>


-- 
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."

- Albert Einstein
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From adkturn at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 20 10:01:14 2009
From: adkturn at hotmail.com (M Adkturn)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:01:14 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout
In-Reply-To: <3b0b2a0c0907200607j28c27758rfe41ddbb82937d06@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A6461B7.1020205@hillert.com>
	<3b0b2a0c0907200607j28c27758rfe41ddbb82937d06@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY0-DP3-27DE711EE31AE0DE005A1EBC1D0@phx.gbl>


After I joined the email list, I just showed up at Garcia's for the pre-meet hangout. My impression was that new faces are always welcome.
 


Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:07:35 -0400
From: tosehee at gmail.com
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout

Hello.

I am new to AJUG, so I think this is a great opportunity for me to introduce myself and get to know other people.

Is this open to new people or is it for an existing members only?




On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Hillert <gunnar at hillert.com> wrote:


Hi AJUG members!

The July AJUG meeting is here. Why not spend some quality
time before the meeting kicks off, networking with some other AJUG
folks?

We will meet on Tuesday, July 21 around 5:00-5:30 at
Garcia's Mexican Restaurant. Garcia's is located in the Georgetown Shopping
Center on the other side of I-285 from the AJUG meeting location
(Holiday Inn Select).

This is just a loose, informal time to hang out and get to know each
other before we head over to the meeting for our monthly dose of
mind-altering Java insights.

Why waste an hour working late at the office before you head to AJUG?
Come join us for some good food, good beverages, and good fun.

Specifics for finding Garcia's:

Garcia's Mexican Restaurant
4514 Chamblee Dunwoody Road
Atlanta, GA 30338
770-458-6122

You can find the google map at http://tinyurl.com/p5an5

To get to Garcia's simply head north on Chamblee Dunwoody Road when
exiting from I-285. Garcia's is in the Georgetown shopping center on
your left, between Kroger and Starbucks.

Hope you can make it!

Ciao,

Gunnar 
_______________________________________________
ajug-members mailing list
ajug-members at ajug.org
http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members



-- 
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."

- Albert Einstein
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From VMayers at anteogroup.com  Mon Jul 20 10:06:11 2009
From: VMayers at anteogroup.com (Vincent Mayers)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:06:11 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout
In-Reply-To: <3b0b2a0c0907200607j28c27758rfe41ddbb82937d06@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A6461B7.1020205@hillert.com>
	<3b0b2a0c0907200607j28c27758rfe41ddbb82937d06@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10D0D7D6448E184D91841B77385BA501016205DD@antsrv1.ANT.priv>

Hey.. this is open to all and all are welcome.. membership of AJUG is
free,,

 

See you there

 

From: Se Hee Lee [mailto:tosehee at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:08 AM
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout

 

Hello.

I am new to AJUG, so I think this is a great opportunity for me to
introduce myself and get to know other people.

Is this open to new people or is it for an existing members only?




On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Hillert <gunnar at hillert.com>
wrote:

Hi AJUG members!

The July AJUG meeting is here. Why not spend some quality
time before the meeting kicks off, networking with some other AJUG
folks?

We will meet on Tuesday, July 21 around 5:00-5:30 at
Garcia's Mexican Restaurant. Garcia's is located in the Georgetown
Shopping
Center on the other side of I-285 from the AJUG meeting location
(Holiday Inn Select).

This is just a loose, informal time to hang out and get to know each
other before we head over to the meeting for our monthly dose of
mind-altering Java insights.

Why waste an hour working late at the office before you head to AJUG?
Come join us for some good food, good beverages, and good fun.

Specifics for finding Garcia's:

Garcia's Mexican Restaurant
4514 Chamblee Dunwoody Road
Atlanta, GA 30338
770-458-6122

You can find the google map at http://tinyurl.com/p5an5

To get to Garcia's simply head north on Chamblee Dunwoody Road when
exiting from I-285. Garcia's is in the Georgetown shopping center on
your left, between Kroger and Starbucks.

Hope you can make it!

Ciao,

Gunnar 


_______________________________________________
ajug-members mailing list
ajug-members at ajug.org
http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members




-- 
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler."

- Albert Einstein

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From dkovacs77 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 15:58:41 2009
From: dkovacs77 at gmail.com (David Kovacs)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:58:41 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <a93e1100907200455p26736818m6ade84173f1f6998@mail.gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
	<a93e1100907200455p26736818m6ade84173f1f6998@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0FEE13B7-C01F-4E48-B816-BD561887E242@gmail.com>

Hi All,

Is the Groovy meeting confirmed for Wednesday and is the meeting place  
the same as on the site?:

http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252

Thanks,

- Dave

On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:55 AM, SilverAnvil wrote:

> This Wednesday (22nd) is better for me.  BTW, I have some Groovy
> goodies to give away.
> Burk
> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"
> Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pratik Patel<pratik.r.patel at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>> This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
>> Meeting location and details:
>> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>>
>> Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on  
>> day
>> following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would  
>> like
>> to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email  
>> me
>> directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
>> monday.
>>
>> ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
>> Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
>> * JMS
>> * Groovy
>> * Grails
>> * Grails JMS Plugin
>> * Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
>> * Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
>> * ActiveMQ sidebar
>> - how does activemq work with Grails
>> - embedded ActiveMQ
>> - defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
>> * Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
>> - Grails Camel plugin
>> - defining camel filters and endpoints
>> * Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
>> - AMQ console
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members



From pratik.r.patel at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 16:33:41 2009
From: pratik.r.patel at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:33:41 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <0FEE13B7-C01F-4E48-B816-BD561887E242@gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
	<a93e1100907200455p26736818m6ade84173f1f6998@mail.gmail.com>
	<0FEE13B7-C01F-4E48-B816-BD561887E242@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <419803e80907201333x488f1962n386a6f9b17d8bfa0@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, meeting is confirmed for this Wednesday, and meeting is at Matrix
Offices in perimeter as stated on the site.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, David Kovacs<dkovacs77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Is the Groovy meeting confirmed for Wednesday and is the meeting place
> the same as on the site?:
>
> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Dave
>
> On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:55 AM, SilverAnvil wrote:
>
>> This Wednesday (22nd) is better for me. ?BTW, I have some Groovy
>> goodies to give away.
>> Burk
>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"
>> Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pratik Patel<pratik.r.patel at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
>>> Meeting location and details:
>>> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on
>>> day
>>> following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would
>>> like
>>> to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email
>>> me
>>> directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
>>> monday.
>>>
>>> ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
>>> Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
>>> * JMS
>>> * Groovy
>>> * Grails
>>> * Grails JMS Plugin
>>> * Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
>>> * Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
>>> * ActiveMQ sidebar
>>> - how does activemq work with Grails
>>> - embedded ActiveMQ
>>> - defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
>>> * Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
>>> - Grails Camel plugin
>>> - defining camel filters and endpoints
>>> * Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
>>> - AMQ console
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>


From arrigoni.andrew at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 20:28:03 2009
From: arrigoni.andrew at gmail.com (Andrew Arrigoni)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:28:03 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout
In-Reply-To: <10D0D7D6448E184D91841B77385BA501016205DD@antsrv1.ANT.priv>
References: <4A6461B7.1020205@hillert.com>
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Good, I won't be the only new guy there. :)

Drew

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Vincent Mayers <VMayers at anteogroup.com>wrote:

>  Hey.. this is open to all and all are welcome.. membership of AJUG is
> free,,
>
>
>
> See you there
>
>
>
> *From:* Se Hee Lee [mailto:tosehee at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 20, 2009 9:08 AM
> *To:* ajug-members at ajug.org
> *Subject:* Re: [ajug-members] AJUG July 2009 Pre-Meeting Hangout
>
>
>
> Hello.
>
>
> I am new to AJUG, so I think this is a great opportunity for me to
> introduce myself and get to know other people.
>
> Is this open to new people or is it for an existing members only?
>
>
>  On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gunnar Hillert <gunnar at hillert.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi AJUG members!
>
> The July AJUG meeting is here. Why not spend some quality
> time before the meeting kicks off, networking with some other AJUG
> folks?
>
> We will meet on *Tuesday, July 21 around 5:00-5:30* at
> *Garcia's Mexican Restaurant*. Garcia's is located in the Georgetown
> Shopping
> Center on the other side of I-285 from the AJUG meeting location
> (Holiday Inn Select).
>
> This is just a loose, informal time to hang out and get to know each
> other before we head over to the meeting for our monthly dose of
> mind-altering Java insights.
>
> Why waste an hour working late at the office before you head to AJUG?
> Come join us for some good food, good beverages, and good fun.
>
> Specifics for finding Garcia's:
>
> Garcia's Mexican Restaurant
> 4514 Chamblee Dunwoody Road
> Atlanta, GA 30338
> 770-458-6122
>
> You can find the google map at http://tinyurl.com/p5an5
>
> To get to Garcia's simply head north on Chamblee Dunwoody Road when
> exiting from I-285. Garcia's is in the Georgetown shopping center on
> your left, between Kroger and Starbucks.
>
> Hope you can make it!
>
> Ciao,
>
> Gunnar
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
> - Albert Einstein
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From lkwoody at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 16:27:12 2009
From: lkwoody at gmail.com (Laura Moore)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:27:12 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and Enterprise
	Messaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <419803e80907180930o5113d9d5v5e991bf76c2e3ce1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
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open web application security project

Discussing vulnerablities, remedies and tools for protecting web apps
from all the evil hackers in the world.


From ccurtin at mindspring.com  Wed Jul 22 09:14:59 2009
From: ccurtin at mindspring.com (Chris Curtin)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:14:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [ajug-members] July 2009 Hadoop and Cascading Slides are online
Message-ID: <17318273.1248268500117.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi,

Thanks to everyone who attended last night. Lots of great questions from the group!

I've uploaded my presentation to SlideShare here: http://www.slideshare.net/chriscurtin

I fixed a few typos and added some other resources to the last slide. 

There were also a couple of side discussion about teaching children to program and the 'cloud' community here in Atlanta. A good resource for both is John Willis. His blog is here: http://www.johnmwillis.com/ Specific about Alice programming: http://www.johnmwillis.com/category/alice-programming/

Thanks,

Chris




From john.willis at zabovo.com  Wed Jul 22 21:11:17 2009
From: john.willis at zabovo.com (John Willis)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:11:17 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Video from last nights Hadoop presentation
In-Reply-To: <c90477a10907221809h2dd19d26r2dabe40eec4467ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c90477a10907221809h2dd19d26r2dabe40eec4467ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c90477a10907221811m13fc43d3g5c0d31591590fffa@mail.gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> I really enjoyed attending AJUG last night. ?I posted the video from
> the presentation. ?Fell free to embed it any where.
>
> http://tr.im/tzeE
>

-- 
John Willis
Company : Zabovo.com
Blog         : johnmwillis.com
Facebook : botchagalupe
Twitter      : botchagalupe
Dopplr      : botchagalupe


From john.willis at zabovo.com  Wed Jul 22 21:17:38 2009
From: john.willis at zabovo.com (John Willis)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:17:38 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Teaching Kids To Code.. Alice
Message-ID: <c90477a10907221817v678d86b0t3dadca91cd4e1fa1@mail.gmail.com>

All,

The topic of K12 education tools cam up last night.  Here are a few
links if you are interested.

http://www.johnmwillis.com/alice/teaching-kids-to-code/

http://www.johnmwillis.com/open-source/free-cool-tools-for-educators/

 http://www.johnmwillis.com/spritely/teaching-kids-to-code-spritely/

I look forward to meeting you all again at the next meeting.

Thanks

-- 
John Willis
Blog         : johnmwillis.com
Facebook : botchagalupe
Twitter      : botchagalupe
Dopplr      : botchagalupe


From bemowski at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 23 20:59:01 2009
From: bemowski at yahoo.com (Paul Bemowski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ajug-members] Video from last nights Hadoop presentation
In-Reply-To: <c90477a10907221811m13fc43d3g5c0d31591590fffa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c90477a10907221809h2dd19d26r2dabe40eec4467ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<c90477a10907221811m13fc43d3g5c0d31591590fffa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <343770.7928.qm@web51508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

For those interested in Map Reduce, I've always liked this description of the algorithm:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/08/01.html





________________________________
From: John Willis <john.willis at zabovo.com>
To:ajug-members at www.ajug.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Video from last nights Hadoop presentation

> Hi,
>
> I really enjoyed attending AJUG last night.  I posted the video from
> the presentation.  Fell free to embed it any where.
>
> http://tr.im/tzeE
>

-- 
John Willis
Company : Zabovo.com
Blog         : johnmwillis.com
Facebook : botchagalupe
Twitter      : botchagalupe
Dopplr      : botchagalupe

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From bemowski at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 23 20:59:01 2009
From: bemowski at yahoo.com (Paul Bemowski)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [ajug-members] Video from last nights Hadoop presentation
In-Reply-To: <c90477a10907221811m13fc43d3g5c0d31591590fffa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c90477a10907221809h2dd19d26r2dabe40eec4467ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<c90477a10907221811m13fc43d3g5c0d31591590fffa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <343770.7928.qm@web51508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

For those interested in Map Reduce, I've always liked this description of the algorithm:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/08/01.html





________________________________
From: John Willis <john.willis at zabovo.com>
To:ajug-members at www.ajug.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Video from last nights Hadoop presentation

> Hi,
>
> I really enjoyed attending AJUG last night.  I posted the video from
> the presentation.  Fell free to embed it any where.
>
> http://tr.im/tzeE
>

-- 
John Willis
Company : Zabovo.com
Blog         : johnmwillis.com
Facebook : botchagalupe
Twitter      : botchagalupe
Dopplr      : botchagalupe

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From tosehee at gmail.com  Fri Jul 24 13:35:42 2009
From: tosehee at gmail.com (Se Hee Lee)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:35:42 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] Video from last nights Hadoop presentation
In-Reply-To: <343770.7928.qm@web51508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <c90477a10907221809h2dd19d26r2dabe40eec4467ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<c90477a10907221811m13fc43d3g5c0d31591590fffa@mail.gmail.com>
	<343770.7928.qm@web51508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3b0b2a0c0907241035q63e5cb8cg675301c649457696@mail.gmail.com>

This is a very good intro on map/reduce algorithm.

I had a thought that hadoop and map/reduce in general are somewhat limited
in the input file, but based on this, it isn't.

You can, and you should be able to use the map/reduce in pretty much any
project that takes the independent function to offload the work.

I am involved in heavy complex and real time ETL, and I am hoping to utilize
this technology.

Thanks for the links.

Regards

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Paul Bemowski <bemowski at yahoo.com> wrote:

> For those interested in Map Reduce, I've always liked this description of
> the algorithm:
>
> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/08/01.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John Willis <john.willis at zabovo.com>
> *To:* ajug-members at www.ajug.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:11:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ajug-members] Video from last nights Hadoop presentation
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I really enjoyed attending AJUG last night.  I posted the video from
> > the presentation.  Fell free to embed it any where.
> >
> > http://tr.im/tzeE
> >
>
> --
> John Willis
> Company : Zabovo.com
> Blog        : johnmwillis.com
> Facebook : botchagalupe
> Twitter      : botchagalupe
> Dopplr      : botchagalupe
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ajug-members at ajug.org
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>
>


-- 
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From sudhirk at samarthtech.com  Tue Jul 28 08:48:16 2009
From: sudhirk at samarthtech.com (Sudhir Kamatkar)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:48:16 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
	EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <419803e80907201333x488f1962n386a6f9b17d8bfa0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com><a93e1100907200455p26736818m6ade84173f1f6998@mail.gmail.com><0FEE13B7-C01F-4E48-B816-BD561887E242@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CC3370DCB86B450A9ACEC87C3FCAFB54@pratham>

Pratik,

Can you please send me the code used for this presentation?

Thank you

Best Regards,
 
Sudhir Kamatkar
Samarth Technologies, Inc
Phone: (678) 313-8173
http://www.samarthtech.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratik.r.patel at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:34 PM
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI

Yes, meeting is confirmed for this Wednesday, and meeting is at Matrix
Offices in perimeter as stated on the site.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, David Kovacs<dkovacs77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Is the Groovy meeting confirmed for Wednesday and is the meeting place
> the same as on the site?:
>
> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Dave
>
> On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:55 AM, SilverAnvil wrote:
>
>> This Wednesday (22nd) is better for me. ?BTW, I have some Groovy
>> goodies to give away.
>> Burk
>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"
>> Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pratik Patel<pratik.r.patel at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
>>> Meeting location and details:
>>> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on
>>> day
>>> following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would
>>> like
>>> to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email
>>> me
>>> directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
>>> monday.
>>>
>>> ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
>>> Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
>>> * JMS
>>> * Groovy
>>> * Grails
>>> * Grails JMS Plugin
>>> * Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
>>> * Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
>>> * ActiveMQ sidebar
>>> - how does activemq work with Grails
>>> - embedded ActiveMQ
>>> - defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
>>> * Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
>>> - Grails Camel plugin
>>> - defining camel filters and endpoints
>>> * Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
>>> - AMQ console
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members at ajug.org
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>

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From stephen at davisonline.name  Tue Jul 28 12:57:45 2009
From: stephen at davisonline.name (Stephen Davis)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:57:45 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
	EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <CC3370DCB86B450A9ACEC87C3FCAFB54@pratham>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
	<a93e1100907200455p26736818m6ade84173f1f6998@mail.gmail.com>
	<0FEE13B7-C01F-4E48-B816-BD561887E242@gmail.com>
	<419803e80907201333x488f1962n386a6f9b17d8bfa0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CC3370DCB86B450A9ACEC87C3FCAFB54@pratham>
Message-ID: <eed1c4fe0907280957k8aa7239l47d7575420854e7d@mail.gmail.com>

Pratik,

Well, Sudhir beat me to it. ... he asked before I did.  I'm another who
would like to receive a copy of the code, if that's okay.  The insights you
shared can be better utilized as we review the source.

Respectfully and with gratitude,

Steve

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Sudhir Kamatkar <sudhirk at samarthtech.com>wrote:

> Pratik,
>
> Can you please send me the code used for this presentation?
>
> Thank you
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Sudhir Kamatkar
> Samarth Technologies, Inc
> Phone: (678) 313-8173
> http://www.samarthtech.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratik.r.patel at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:34 PM
> To: ajug-members at ajug.org
> Subject: Re: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
> EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI
>
> Yes, meeting is confirmed for this Wednesday, and meeting is at Matrix
> Offices in perimeter as stated on the site.
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, David Kovacs<dkovacs77 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Is the Groovy meeting confirmed for Wednesday and is the meeting place
> > the same as on the site?:
> >
> > http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Dave
> >
> > On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:55 AM, SilverAnvil wrote:
> >
> >> This Wednesday (22nd) is better for me.  BTW, I have some Groovy
> >> goodies to give away.
> >> Burk
> >> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"
> >> Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pratik Patel<pratik.r.patel at gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>> This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
> >>> Meeting location and details:
> >>> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on
> >>> day
> >>> following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would
> >>> like
> >>> to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email
> >>> me
> >>> directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
> >>> monday.
> >>>
> >>> ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
> >>> Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
> >>> * JMS
> >>> * Groovy
> >>> * Grails
> >>> * Grails JMS Plugin
> >>> * Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
> >>> * Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
> >>> * ActiveMQ sidebar
> >>> - how does activemq work with Grails
> >>> - embedded ActiveMQ
> >>> - defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
> >>> * Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
> >>> - Grails Camel plugin
> >>> - defining camel filters and endpoints
> >>> * Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
> >>> - AMQ console
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> ajug-members mailing list
> >>> ajug-members at ajug.org
> >>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
> >>>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ajug-members mailing list
> >> ajug-members at ajug.org
> >> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ajug-members mailing list
> > ajug-members at ajug.org
> > http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members at ajug.org
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
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From pratik.r.patel at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 13:47:40 2009
From: pratik.r.patel at gmail.com (Pratik Patel)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:47:40 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
	EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI
In-Reply-To: <CC3370DCB86B450A9ACEC87C3FCAFB54@pratham>
References: <419803e80907170916m3269390aw46a239c379c6eabf@mail.gmail.com>
	<a93e1100907200455p26736818m6ade84173f1f6998@mail.gmail.com>
	<0FEE13B7-C01F-4E48-B816-BD561887E242@gmail.com>
	<419803e80907201333x488f1962n386a6f9b17d8bfa0@mail.gmail.com>
	<CC3370DCB86B450A9ACEC87C3FCAFB54@pratham>
Message-ID: <419803e80907301047k4986e58eud47cd5524acf117a@mail.gmail.com>

The code is on GitHub here:
http://github.com/prpatel/ExpenseG/tree/master
It contains all the examples I went through the other nite.

If you're unfamiliar with Git (it's a version control system, like
SVN), there is an entire ebook on Git here:
http://progit.org/book/

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Sudhir Kamatkar<sudhirk at samarthtech.com> wrote:
> Pratik,
>
> Can you please send me the code used for this presentation?
>
> Thank you
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Sudhir Kamatkar
> Samarth Technologies, Inc
> Phone: (678) 313-8173
> http://www.samarthtech.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratik.r.patel at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:34 PM
> To: ajug-members at ajug.org
> Subject: Re: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
> EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI
>
> Yes, meeting is confirmed for this Wednesday, and meeting is at Matrix
> Offices in perimeter as stated on the site.
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, David Kovacs<dkovacs77 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Is the Groovy meeting confirmed for Wednesday and is the meeting place
>> the same as on the site?:
>>
>> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:55 AM, SilverAnvil wrote:
>>
>>> This Wednesday (22nd) is better for me. ?BTW, I have some Groovy
>>> goodies to give away.
>>> Burk
>>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"
>>> Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pratik Patel<pratik.r.patel at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>> This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
>>>> Meeting location and details:
>>>> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on
>>>> day
>>>> following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would
>>>> like
>>>> to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email
>>>> me
>>>> directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
>>>> monday.
>>>>
>>>> ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
>>>> Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
>>>> * JMS
>>>> * Groovy
>>>> * Grails
>>>> * Grails JMS Plugin
>>>> * Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
>>>> * Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
>>>> * ActiveMQ sidebar
>>>> - how does activemq work with Grails
>>>> - embedded ActiveMQ
>>>> - defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
>>>> * Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
>>>> - Grails Camel plugin
>>>> - defining camel filters and endpoints
>>>> * Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
>>>> - AMQ console
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>
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From stephen at davisonline.name  Thu Jul 30 14:48:12 2009
From: stephen at davisonline.name (Stephen Davis)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:48:12 -0400
Subject: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
	EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI
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Pratik

I'm sure the source will benefit the community.  Thank you.

With appreciation,

Steve Davis

http://linkedin/in/sjdavis1224
http://stephendavis.name

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Pratik Patel <pratik.r.patel at gmail.com>wrote:

> The code is on GitHub here:
> http://github.com/prpatel/ExpenseG/tree/master
> It contains all the examples I went through the other nite.
>
> If you're unfamiliar with Git (it's a version control system, like
> SVN), there is an entire ebook on Git here:
> http://progit.org/book/
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Sudhir Kamatkar<sudhirk at samarthtech.com>
> wrote:
> > Pratik,
> >
> > Can you please send me the code used for this presentation?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Sudhir Kamatkar
> > Samarth Technologies, Inc
> > Phone: (678) 313-8173
> > http://www.samarthtech.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pratik Patel [mailto:pratik.r.patel at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:34 PM
> > To: ajug-members at ajug.org
> > Subject: Re: [ajug-members] ATL2G July 22 - Groovy Grails and
> > EnterpriseMessaging: JMS and EI
> >
> > Yes, meeting is confirmed for this Wednesday, and meeting is at Matrix
> > Offices in perimeter as stated on the site.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, David Kovacs<dkovacs77 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Is the Groovy meeting confirmed for Wednesday and is the meeting place
> >> the same as on the site?:
> >>
> >> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> - Dave
> >>
> >> On Jul 20, 2009, at 7:55 AM, SilverAnvil wrote:
> >>
> >>> This Wednesday (22nd) is better for me.  BTW, I have some Groovy
> >>> goodies to give away.
> >>> Burk
> >>> "Any sufficiently analyzed magic is indistinguishable from science!"
> >>> Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Pratik Patel<
> pratik.r.patel at gmail.com
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> This month we'll be diving into JMS/EI with G/G.
> >>>> Meeting location and details:
> >>>> http://www.ajug.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3637252
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately, this month's meeting (4th Wednesday of month) is on
> >>>> day
> >>>> following the AJUG meeting (3rd Tuesday of month). If folks would
> >>>> like
> >>>> to postpone to the following week, that is fine by me. please email
> >>>> me
> >>>> directly if that works better for you and i'll decide either way by
> >>>> monday.
> >>>>
> >>>> ATL2G - July 22, Speaker: Pratik Patel
> >>>> Groovy Grails and Enterprise Messaging: JMS and EI
> >>>> * JMS
> >>>> * Groovy
> >>>> * Grails
> >>>> * Grails JMS Plugin
> >>>> * Basic demo of consuming JMS w/grails
> >>>> * Basic demo of publishing JMS w/grails
> >>>> * ActiveMQ sidebar
> >>>> - how does activemq work with Grails
> >>>> - embedded ActiveMQ
> >>>> - defining endpoints in ActiveMQ
> >>>> * Using EI platform - Apache Camel sidebar
> >>>> - Grails Camel plugin
> >>>> - defining camel filters and endpoints
> >>>> * Externalizing ActiveMQ broker
> >>>> - AMQ console
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> ajug-members mailing list
> >>>> ajug-members at ajug.org
> >>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>
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