[ajug-members] thinking about how to think

[Wilson, Jeff]

Barclay,
Your reply with some Java classes attached was rejected by my corporate
mail proxy. :-(

If you want me to comment on your code, please put the source code in a
zip file and resend it. Thanks.

+jeff (MJW)
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Operations & Service Dev
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-----Original Message-----
From: barc [mailto:521 at ofig.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:31 AM
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] thinking about how to think

nope, thanks dave- nice to read your reply...  :)

barclay

David Page wrote:
> No need to be distressed - IDEs might seem to be performing some magic

> at this stage. Best to either accept that or defer to programming 
> console applications to begin with.
>
> Have you considered looking at http://www.bluej.org/ ?
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:35 PM, mcdaniel <521 at ofig.org 
> <mailto:521 at ofig.org>> wrote:
>
>     i have used netbeans (or whatever ide) only a little bit; when i
add a
>     button and choose for a mouse-event_mouse-clicked, i build code in
the
>     click; i get confused; i start to build a simple program (the
>     whole darn
>     thing) ""in the button-click itself"" and know this is wrong from
>     an oop
>     standpoint;  when i read about oop it
>
>     ah, nevermind- when i write a program, i think about "that"
>     problem/solution 'only' and oop seems to be designed for 'way'
'way'
>     larger projects- i don't need all this stuff as a small project
>     guy/hobby/volunteer/etc programmer.  what am i doing?  programming
is
>     just stuff;  maybe i need a large project to succeed-in in order
>     to get
>     hired- i don't even care for jsp/html talk; why not just use php
to
>     print html; it is jnlp that has my attention; all i know is that i
>     really like java but have nowhere to go with it AND i see its
>     power/stength (a bit less than c++/c; but still powerful) to
one-year
>     "beginner" me java is second behind c++ (and a good rdbms- i like
>     mysql)
>     in terms of what-to-know/power (i don't even consider
c#/microsoft) ;
>     i'm just wasting time here in this email; if you've read this far,
>     thanks for reading i guess...
>
>     i'm going to go to my second ajug meeting soon- i met some of you
at
>     that mexican place a few months ago...
>
>     barclay
>
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