[ajug-members] thinking about how to think

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thanks for all you siad Jeff, if you run TowaligaPond.class file it prints from the math in the static-arrays for now; here's a site (towaliga.com) i do volunteer for and years back i made this pond dam size/volume program ( http://www.ofig.org/nrcs/towp/ - you can load example numbers at the bottom) attached is where i was working on it last week (going to move it from php to java/jnlp), run the TowaligaPond program.  source/.java is included...  i really enjoyed working with php image functions but see the strength of java...

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:17:36 -0400, Wilson, Jeff wrote
> The way to think about OO is that there are a bunch of objects that 
> describe the system, and work gets done by passing messages around 
> between them. 
> 
> OO isn't really just for large programs -- it can help with small 
> programs as well. The advantages are about separating responsibilities, 
> data hiding and abstractions. To folks that have finally "gotten it" 
> everything looks like an object when you are designing a program. 
> 
> Maybe it would help if you would explain a given problem you want to 
> write a program for, and folks here can give you some pointers on how 
> that solution may be designed in an OO way. 
> 
> Also, reading on just the OO side of things, instead of just the Java 
> language, may help. I would suggest "Head First Object Oriented Analysis 
> and Design", "Thinking in Java", among others. 
> 
> Keep plugging away and asking for help -- it's my experience that you 
> have to have a moment of epiphany where OO just clicks, but you don't 
> normally get to that point until you've written and thought about and 
> seen a lot of code... 
> 
> I see Java as being more powerful than C++ in lots of ways. I came to 
> Java by way of many years of C++ as well, and I wouldn't go back to C++ 
> unless the job was otherwise very, very, good. 
> 
> +jeff (MJW) 
> --- 
> 
> "The optimists believe that this is the best of all possible worlds. The 
> pessimists are afraid the optimists are right." 
>  -anonymous 
> 
> --------------------------------------------- 
> M. Jeff Wilson, Lead Member Technical Staff 
> AT&T Services, Inc. 
> Operations & Service Dev 
> jw9615 at att.com 
> +1 404.499.7235 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: mcdaniel [mailto:521 at ofig.org] 
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:36 PM 
> To: ajug-members at ajug.org 
> Subject: [ajug-members] thinking about how to think 
> 
> i have used netbeans (or whatever ide) only a little bit; when i add a 
> button and choose for a mouse-event_mouse-clicked, i build code in the 
> click; i get confused; i start to build a simple program (the whole darn 
> 
> thing) ""in the button-click itself"" and know this is wrong from an oop 
> 
> standpoint;  when i read about oop it 
> 
> ah, nevermind- when i write a program, i think about "that" 
> problem/solution 'only' and oop seems to be designed for 'way' 'way' 
> larger projects- i don't need all this stuff as a small project 
> guy/hobby/volunteer/etc programmer.  what am i doing?  programming is 
> just stuff;  maybe i need a large project to succeed-in in order to get 
> hired- i don't even care for jsp/html talk; why not just use php to 
> print html; it is jnlp that has my attention; all i know is that i 
> really like java but have nowhere to go with it AND i see its 
> power/stength (a bit less than c++/c; but still powerful) to one-year   
> "beginner" me java is second behind c++ (and a good rdbms- i like mysql) 
> 
> in terms of what-to-know/power (i don't even consider c#/microsoft) ; 
> i'm just wasting time here in this email; if you've read this far, 
> thanks for reading i guess... 
> 
> i'm going to go to my second ajug meeting soon- i met some of you at 
> that mexican place a few months ago... 
> 
> barclay 
> 
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