[ajug-members] Opinions on a project re-write - To EJB3 or Not

[Thomas, Dave]

I'll need to look at Pitchfork then!

Until now I've been doing out-of-container testing with EJB3Unit.  I've found it most useful for JPA stuff.  Much more sophisticated than DBUnit, and provides good abstractions.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Hawkins [mailto:barry at alltc.com]
Sent: Thu 5/29/2008 2:34 PM
To: ajug-members at ajug.org
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Opinions on a project re-write - To EJB3 or Not
 
The ones who are truly Agile tend to use Spring, since they are  
*actually doing* out-of-container unit and integration testing.  If  
they are using EJB3 and they want to do this, they have to use  
Pitchfork -- which is a joint Open Source project between SpringSource  
and BEA.  If anyone wants to find out how much cruft EJB3 still has,  
try doing out-of-container testing with EJB3 and don't use Pitchfork.   
Your stack traces will tell the story.

The lack of out-of-the-box testing facilities for EJB3 implementations  
leaves me speechless, and I think it reflects just how much of the  
boat has been missed.

Barry

On May 29, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Thomas, Dave wrote:

>>> I think it's mostly a matter of religious preference.  IMHO Spring
>>> has had inroads with the agile folks, EJB with the enterprise folks.
>> So which one do the agile, enterprise folks use?
>> </tongue-in-cheek>
>
> Exactly!!  That's really the question.  I knew if I threw in a  
> buzzword like 'enterprise' I'd get into trouble.  Really, it's all  
> J2EE, I guess I meant to say people who are doing more enterprise/ 
> legacy integration, web services, JMS, that kind of stuff versus the  
> web+rdbms world.
>
> Anyone else want to weigh in?
[...]


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