[ajug-members] SpringSource App Server

[Jeremy Haile]

I largely work with Spring/Hibernate on top of Tomcat (although have  
used JBoss and Jetty a good bit as well).

I'm excited about SpringSource App Server and its potential.  I think  
the Spring Framework helped bring about a more pick-and-choose,  
component-based approach to building enterprise applications, and it's  
adoption has helped drive the overall application server market to  
rethink how app servers should work.  I have a good bit of confidence  
that SpringSource will build a relatively light-weight component-based  
server that will make it easier to get enterprise apps up and running,  
while not bloating your application with unneeded services.  A lot of  
my confidence is due to the excellent quality, design, and  
documentation around most of their existing projects.

The problem with the current approach of building a webapp on top of  
just Tomcat is that it is difficult (or at least time consuming) to  
pick out and assemble all of the components you need in piecemeal  
form.  An app server helps to provide those components out of the box,  
and OSGi holds the promise of allowing them to smoothly integrate and  
only enable components that are required by your app.  I'm excited  
about the idea of just being able to deploy my code and have OSGi pull  
in the libraries and services that the app depends on.

I think that I will eventually play around with SSAP and could imagine  
us switching over to it instead of just Tomcat.  But at the same time  
there are no real features driving me to start testing with it  
immediately.  For now, my approach is probably to wait and see how it  
shapes up and what the feedback is from early adopters.  If I have  
time to test it out in the meantime, that's gravy.

I have no concerns about the license...but I also work for a startup,  
not a large, slow-moving corporation.

Jeremy Haile

On May 16, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:

> Thank you Travis.
>
> Not too many comments from the local crowd.  Suggests a lot of  
> indifference to this pretty damn interesting new entry in our  
> marketplace.  Maybe everybody else Atlanta is stuck on WebSphere due  
> to corporate "standards" and just disillusioned in general. ;-)
> Or perhaps the other 500 people on this list are just all on  
> vacation today!
>
> Are you concerns specifically about v3 of GPL?  After all Linux and  
> MySQL are GPL.
>
> Travis Bailey wrote:
>>
>>
>> Personally, I am excited about Spring doing an App Server  
>> implementation because I like Spring code in general. (everything  
>> but Web Flow so far)
>> I am disillusioned because they are releasing it under the GPL v3  
>> which discourages me from wanting to use it.
>>
>> Regardless it will probably be useful for the community to see how  
>> they implemented OSGi with Equinoxe...
>> And I will hopefully do a test implementation sometime, but that  
>> will be more a matter of happenstance at this time.
>>
>> Meh.  My few cents.
>>
>> Travis Bailey
>> www.travisbailey.com
>> 404.664.7782 (c)
>>
>> "The greater the artist the greater the doubt. Perfect confidence  
>> is granted to the less talented as a consolation prize." - Robert  
>> Hughes
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Burr Sutter <burrsutter at gmail.com>
>> To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month) <ajug-members at ajug.org 
>> >
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:09:40 PM
>> Subject: [ajug-members] SpringSource App Server
>>
>> I'm hoping this topic gets tons of passionate responses, well,  
>> perhaps not as many as WiPro (or whatever they are called) setting  
>> up shop in Atlanta and all of us about to get a pay cut. :-)
>>
>> What is your level of excitement or disillusionment with the  
>> SpringSource Application Platform?
>> http://www.springsource.com/web/guest/products/suite/applicationplatform
>> On a scale of 1 to 5 where
>> 1 = I hate it, it is the dumbest idea I ever heard of, the big  
>> vendors will teach the upstarts a lesson and kill them
>> 5 = I love it, it is brilliant, where can I buy stock in  
>> SpringSource, this will make them rich
>>
>> The TSS.com crowd has had a lot to say about this product offering  
>> and strategy move by SpringSource.  What do the real people doing  
>> real work, the folks in Atlanta, think about this?
>>
>> Burr
>>
>>
>>
>>
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