[ajug-members] cert.

Thu Jul 24 11:59:19 EDT 2008

Yes, but you have a copy don't you :)

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From: Barry Hawkins [mailto:barry at alltc.com]
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My copy of the GOF book gets about as much use as those big coffee table Bibles people have in their homes.  While some of the tried and true patterns are in there, there's also a good deal of "how to make C+
+ suck less", which has little bearing for the Java programmer.  If
anyone has enjoyed the Head First books, they have one on design patterns that I've gotten a kick out of.

Barry

On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Chris Abney wrote:

> If you can deal with the C++ syntax, my pick for the best books on
> OOP/OOD are:
> Design patterns : elements of reusable object-oriented software by the
> GOF -
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Design-patterns-elements-reusable-object-orien
> ted/dp/0201633612 Object-Oriented Design Heuristics by Arthur J Riel -
> http://www.amazon.com/Object-Oriented-Design-Heuristics-Arthur-Riel/dp
> /020163385X I bought those in the mid 90's.  That was $100 well spent.
>
> For the java syntax, I just go to the web.  There are a boat load of
> examples there.
>
> Actually, in last 5 or so years I have been able to get great results
> from just googling the desired pattern name.
> To begin a OOP study I would go to
> http://www.patterndepot.com/put/8/JavaPatterns.htm
>
> Chris
>
>
> From: Wilson, Jeff [mailto:jw9615 at att.com]
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> Each of these books are good intros to Java and OO programming.
> Several of them also deal with good coding practices.
>
> Agile Java, Jeff Langr
> Thinking in Java, Bruce Eckel.
> Head First Java,  Kathy Sierra
>
> This book is good because it teaches you common pitfalls in using
> Java, and how to avoid them.
>
> Effective Java, Joshua Bloch
>
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> Hye there , can some one give me a list of good books on good java
> coding practices, Probably I should ask good OOAD coding practices.
> Iam looking for a book which has  OOAD priciples , practices ,
> patterns , and good coding practices.
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> Experienced programmers: Is java difficult to people who have
> programmed for 5+ years with some sort of procedural-language and then
> move to java?
> In 2000, I moved from a C/assembly job to a Java position (having
> never written a line of Java) and had no trouble making the
> transition.  I feel that most of the knowledge that took me from my
> early level of "competent" to "good" (which probably took a couple of
> years) didn't actually have much to do with Java syntax.  In the
> beginning, you can always google whatever you're trying to do (i.e.
> "java sort"), so memorizing the libraries isn't something I'd worry
> about.  Honestly, there's just too much out there to remember it all.
> In addition to the stuff that comes with the JDK, you'll use many open
> source utilities like Apache Commons in real world Java apps.  Just
> write as much Java code as you can and you'll eventually memorize the
> things that you commonly use.
>
> If you want to become a truly useful Java developer, I'd recommend
> learning the basics of OO and JUnit (unit testing), getting
> comfortable with a good IDE (I use Eclipse), and focusing on writing
> human-readable code.  That's going to put you ahead of the majority of
> people with whom I've ever worked.  There are plenty of good books out
> there, but I found Robert Martin's /Agile Software Development,
> Principles, Patterns, and Practices/ really made a lot of sense to me
> WRT some of the non-syntaxy stuff that I'm talking
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