[ajug-members] cert.
Parvinder Singh
psarora at gmail.com
Wed Jul 23 16:19:54 EDT 2008
If one has 5 years of programming experience (even though procedural) i
believe it is good enough to build up your confidence and dive into
java/J2EE. I got into java way back in dec 2000 and the way i started was :
i gave my SCJP certification . I didn't prepare my certification by
memorizing but by doing exercises , some basic programs so that i am clear
with my concepts or the API i am using, Let it be Swing or IO or even the
basic OO stuff like overriding, overloading, inner classes, etc, write small
routines, applications it helps
JAVA has evolved a whole lot but still you will need to get your java
languages basics right. It might take a little time but i think one can get
there. Again, it depends on how strong is your need and determination
my 2 cents..
~Parvinder
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Alan Honeycutt <alan.n.honeycutt at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Experienced programmers: Is java difficult to people who have programmed
>> for 5+ years with some sort of procedural-language and then move to java?
>>
> In 2000, I moved from a C/assembly job to a Java position (having never
> written a line of Java) and had no trouble making the transition. I feel
> that most of the knowledge that took me from my early level of "competent"
> to "good" (which probably took a couple of years) didn't actually have much
> to do with Java syntax. In the beginning, you can always google whatever
> you're trying to do (i.e. "java sort"), so memorizing the libraries isn't
> something I'd worry about. Honestly, there's just too much out there to
> remember it all. In addition to the stuff that comes with the JDK, you'll
> use many open source utilities like Apache Commons in real world Java apps.
> Just write as much Java code as you can and you'll eventually memorize the
> things that you commonly use.
>
> If you want to become a truly useful Java developer, I'd recommend learning
> the basics of OO and JUnit (unit testing), getting comfortable with a good
> IDE (I use Eclipse), and focusing on writing human-readable code. That's
> going to put you ahead of the majority of people with whom I've ever
> worked. There are plenty of good books out there, but I found Robert
> Martin's /Agile Software Development, Principles, Patterns, and Practices/
> really made a lot of sense to me WRT some of the non-syntaxy stuff that I'm
> talking about.
>
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