[ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta

[Christopher Fowler]

I think that would be bad for the customers of Wipro.  A long time ago I
saw a poster.

http://www.despair.com/consulting.html



On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 22:20 -0400, Dean H. Saxe wrote:
> How topical...
> 
> 
> A Guide to Hiring Programmers: The High Cost of Low Quality
> http://blog.revsys.com/2007/08/a-guide-to-hiri.html
> 
> 
> Interesting read that plays very nicely into the discussion below.  
> 
> 
> -dhs
> 
> 
> 
> Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
> dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com
> "What difference does it make to the dead,  the orphans, and the
> homeless, whether the  mad destruction is wrought under the name of
> totalitarianism or the holy name of  liberty and democracy? " 
>     --Gandhi
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Dean H. Saxe wrote:
> 
> > Amen, brother.  You definitely get what you pay for.  And we paid
> > for it with lots of hard work.
> > 
> > 
> > -dhs
> > 
> > 
> > Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
> > dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com
> > "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or
> > that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
> > unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
> > public."
> >     -- Theodore Roosevelt
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:19 PM, douglas at morganatlanta.com wrote:
> > 
> > > If you set your standards very high on the folks you will hire,
> > > you have a really tough time filling positions (even if you
> > > advertize on AJUG jobs), but if you set your standards lower, you
> > > will end up with crap for a product (I know.  I inherited one of
> > > those.  Ask Dean Saxe).  It still takes people to design products
> > > and write code, and the quality of the output depends on the
> > > quality of the input.  Do you think it is really easier to
> > > find great people in third-world countries than in the US?  While
> > > there are a lot of Indians and Chinese and Phillipinos, etc, they
> > > have a long way to go in terms of democratizing quality education
> > > in order to transform those large numbers of people into large
> > > numbers of qualified IT professionals, and the leadtime for
> > > producing IT professionals is rather long.  Given the growth rate
> > > of the need for IT professionals in the US and world wide, I don't
> > > see there being an excess of top-notch IT pros for a long time (or
> > > ever).  Not a high percentage of people from societies where
> > > people make $2000/yr end up getting Masters degrees in CS.  Those
> > > that do might manage to make a good living though, and might even
> > > end up getting to come to the US on an H1B.  I wish them the best
> > > of luck and hope they will send me their resume after they finish
> > > their "indentured servitude".
> > >  
> 
> 
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