[ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta

[Dean H. Saxe]

How topical...

A Guide to Hiring Programmers: The High Cost of Low Quality
http://blog.revsys.com/2007/08/a-guide-to-hiri.html

Interesting read that plays very nicely into the discussion below.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com
"What difference does it make to the dead,  the orphans, and the  
homeless, whether the  mad destruction is wrought under the name of  
totalitarianism or the holy name of  liberty and democracy? "
     --Gandhi


On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Dean H. Saxe wrote:

> Amen, brother.  You definitely get what you pay for.  And we paid  
> for it with lots of hard work.
>
> -dhs
>
> Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
> dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or  
> that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only  
> unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American  
> public."
>     -- Theodore Roosevelt
>
>
> On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:19 PM, douglas at morganatlanta.com wrote:
>
>> If you set your standards very high on the folks you will hire,  
>> you have a really tough time filling positions (even if you  
>> advertize on AJUG jobs), but if you set your standards lower, you  
>> will end up with crap for a product (I know.  I inherited one of  
>> those.  Ask Dean Saxe).  It still takes people to design products  
>> and write code, and the quality of the output depends on the  
>> quality of the input.  Do you think it is really easier to find  
>> great people in third-world countries than in the US?  While there  
>> are a lot of Indians and Chinese and Phillipinos, etc, they have a  
>> long way to go in terms of democratizing quality education in  
>> order to transform those large numbers of people into large  
>> numbers of qualified IT professionals, and the leadtime for  
>> producing IT professionals is rather long.  Given the growth rate  
>> of the need for IT professionals in the US and world wide, I don't  
>> see there being an excess of top-notch IT pros for a long time (or  
>> ever).  Not a high percentage of people from societies where  
>> people make $2000/yr end up getting Masters degrees in CS.  Those  
>> that do might manage to make a good living though, and might even  
>> end up getting to come to the US on an H1B.  I wish them the best  
>> of luck and hope they will send me their resume after they finish  
>> their "indentured servitude".
>>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://www.ajug.org/pipermail/ajug-members/attachments/20070806/28e892b4/attachment.html