[ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta

[Justin Meads]

I work at BellSouth and Accenture has had no impact on me.  We have  
doubled the size of my dev team in the last two years.  The  
department i work in has added 200 Java developers in the last couple  
of years.

-Justin

On Aug 2, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Brian Whitfield / Essential Resources wrote:

> Historically Wipro HAS brought them in from elsewhere - hard to  
> ignore who/what they are.
>
> You are right - the people they bring in will eventually integrate  
> (and compete with those already here).  The visas are supposed to  
> be temporary.
>
> Ask those that used to be employed by Bellsouth if Accenture  
> impacted them.  Wipro and other importers of large amounts of h1  
> talent will impact everyone they compete with.
> Brian Whitfield
> Essential Resources
> phone: 770-271-3755
> tollfree: 866-837-3755
> fax:      770-271-9739
> brianw at essentialresources.net
>
>
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> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:ajug-members- 
> bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Burr Sutter
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 3:58 PM
> To: 'General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)'
> Subject: RE: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta
>
> I'm not getting the "big deal" here.
>
> If Wipro tries to hire 1000 people in Atlanta it should drive up  
> salaries.  There are not 1000 talented people in the unemployment  
> line here in Atlanta.   Now if they plan to also build some sort of  
> low rent apartment complex where 4 programmers live in a single  
> room and import all of those 1000 people then that is another  
> story.  Otherwise, I'm not sure how they'll escape paying the  
> market rate for Atlanta-based talent.
>
> Keep in mind, all of those "foreigners" (and the article suggests  
> they wish to hire local talent, not import offshore talent) will  
> eventually learn to like living in single-family homes, going to  
> Braves games, drinking $4 beverages from Starbucks, flat-screen  
> TVs, just like the rest of us 2nd/3rd/4th generation Americans.
>
> The most negatively impacted would be Accenture, Unisys, IBM Global  
> Services, etc since WiPro is a competitor of theirs.  The smaller  
> consulting companies should continue to offer their special valued  
> added services at reasonable rates.
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> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:ajug-members- 
> bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Whitfield / Essential Resources
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:01 PM
> To: 'General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)'
> Subject: RE: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta
>
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> There are LOTS of reasons this is bad.  I'll give a big one - If  
> there is a company in Atlanta that has hundreds of java developers  
> working for rates typically below those of American workers - what  
> do you think that does for rates/salaries, etc?  If all of a sudden  
> the market is flooded with java people - what does that do for  
> supply and demand?  This can and will affect the IT market in  
> Atlanta.  It has to.
>
>
>
> I'll be ok.  I'm not for total 'protectionism'.  I am also not for  
> the 9-10 companies that dominate the use of h1 visas under the  
> guise they couldn't find any workers in America (of which Wipro is  
> one of them).
>
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>
> Brian Whitfield
> Essential Resources
> phone: 770-271-3755
> tollfree: 866-837-3755
> fax:      770-271-9739
> brianw at essentialresources.net
>
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> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:ajug-members- 
> bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:31 PM
> To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
> Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta
>
> I'm not exactly sure how this is bad for you, Brian. If you can't  
> compete in a global marketplace then perhaps its time to find a new  
> line of work. (No, I'm not targeting you in particular, I meant the  
> statement in general.)
>
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>
> I'd love if you can help me understand why this is bad news in your  
> opinion.
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>
> -dhs
>
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> Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
>
> dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com
>
> "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak  
> minds."
>
> --Einstein
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> On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Brian Whitfield / Essential Resources  
> wrote:
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> Not entirely java unrelated (we'll compete with these guys for jobs)
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do? 
> command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9027525
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> I don't consider this good news. You can bet most of them will not  
> be local Atlanta people that are hired. I've sent the GA  
> congressman emails stating we should fight this. Maybe all the ajug  
> members should do the same.
>
> Brian Whitfield
>
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