[ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta

[Brian Whitfield / Essential Resources]

Historically Wipro HAS brought them in from elsewhere - hard to ignore
who/what they are.  
 
You are right - the people they bring in will eventually integrate (and
compete with those already here).  The visas are supposed to be temporary.  
 
Ask those that used to be employed by Bellsouth if Accenture impacted them.
Wipro and other importers of large amounts of h1 talent will impact everyone
they compete with. 

Brian Whitfield
Essential Resources
phone: 770-271-3755
tollfree: 866-837-3755
fax:      770-271-9739
brianw at essentialresources.net


 

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From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org]
On Behalf Of Burr Sutter
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 3:58 PM
To: 'General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)'
Subject: RE: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta



I'm not getting the "big deal" here.

If Wipro tries to hire 1000 people in Atlanta it should drive up salaries.
There are not 1000 talented people in the unemployment line here in Atlanta.
Now if they plan to also build some sort of low rent apartment complex where
4 programmers live in a single room and import all of those 1000 people then
that is another story.  Otherwise, I'm not sure how they'll escape paying
the market rate for Atlanta-based talent.   

Keep in mind, all of those "foreigners" (and the article suggests they wish
to hire local talent, not import offshore talent) will eventually learn to
like living in single-family homes, going to Braves games, drinking $4
beverages from Starbucks, flat-screen TVs, just like the rest of us
2nd/3rd/4th generation Americans.

The most negatively impacted would be Accenture, Unisys, IBM Global
Services, etc since WiPro is a competitor of theirs.  The smaller consulting
companies should continue to offer their special valued added services at
reasonable rates.

 

 

 

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From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org]
On Behalf Of Brian Whitfield / Essential Resources
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:01 PM
To: 'General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)'
Subject: RE: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta

 

There are LOTS of reasons this is bad.  I'll give a big one - If there is a
company in Atlanta that has hundreds of java developers working for rates
typically below those of American workers - what do you think that does for
rates/salaries, etc?  If all of a sudden the market is flooded with java
people - what does that do for supply and demand?  This can and will affect
the IT market in Atlanta.  It has to.  

 

I'll be ok.  I'm not for total 'protectionism'.  I am also not for the 9-10
companies that dominate the use of h1 visas under the guise they couldn't
find any workers in America (of which Wipro is one of them).  

 

Brian Whitfield
Essential Resources
phone: 770-271-3755
tollfree: 866-837-3755
fax:      770-271-9739
brianw at essentialresources.net

 

 

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From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org]
On Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:31 PM
To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta

I'm not exactly sure how this is bad for you, Brian. If you can't compete in
a global marketplace then perhaps its time to find a new line of work. (No,
I'm not targeting you in particular, I meant the statement in general.) 

 

I'd love if you can help me understand why this is bad news in your opinion.

 

-dhs

 

Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH

dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds." 

--Einstein





 

On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Brian Whitfield / Essential Resources wrote:





Not entirely java unrelated (we'll compete with these guys for jobs)

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic
<http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&art
icleId=9027525> &articleId=9027525 

I don't consider this good news. You can bet most of them will not be local
Atlanta people that are hired. I've sent the GA congressman emails stating
we should fight this. Maybe all the ajug members should do the same. 

Brian Whitfield

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