[ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta

[Ron Cordell]

The article indicates that the reason is not to import workers, since there
is the H1-B visa cap, but to provide resources under the Wipro company that
are based in the US. Of course there will be some foreign workers, but hey,
if they're good developers, I welcome them, because most of the ones I run
across, whether American or otherwise just aren't all that good.

On 8/2/07, John Bushfield <john.bushfield at pomgaming.com> wrote:
>
>  Brian – part of your anxiety, it appears, is based on an assumption that
> the 'hundreds of java developers' will be working for sub-standard rates,
> and that the market will become flooded with java people.  My experience
> tells me that good java folks, just like good employees everywhere, can and
> will command premium pay.  And, the increased demand created by companies
> like Wipro will only make it harder to find good talent, making pay and job
> security even less of an issue.  As a competitive matter this situation puts
> java jocks in the catbirds seat!  Be happy.  Be very, very happy.
>
>
>
> JB
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>
>
> John A. Bushfield
>
> Vice President, Operations
>
> Pace-O-Matic, Inc.
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> *From:* ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:
> ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian Whitfield / Essential
> Resources
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:01 PM
> *To:* 'General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)'
> *Subject:* RE: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta
>
>
>
> There are LOTS of reasons this is bad.  I'll give a big one - If there is
> a company in Atlanta that has hundreds of java developers working for rates
> typically below those of American workers - what do you think that does for
> rates/salaries, etc?  If all of a sudden the market is flooded with java
> people - what does that do for supply and demand?  This can and will affect
> the IT market in Atlanta.  It has to.
>
>
>
> I'll be ok.  I'm not for total 'protectionism'.  I am also not for the
> 9-10 companies that dominate the use of h1 visas under the guise they
> couldn't find any workers in America (of which Wipro is one of them).
>
>
>
> Brian Whitfield
> Essential Resources
> phone: 770-271-3755
> tollfree: 866-837-3755
> fax:      770-271-9739
> brianw at essentialresources.net
>
>
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> *From:* ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org [mailto:
> ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] *On Behalf Of *Dean H. Saxe
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2007 12:31 PM
> *To:* General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
> *Subject:* Re: [ajug-members] Wipro coming to Atlanta
>
> I'm not exactly sure how this is bad for you, Brian. If you can't compete
> in a global marketplace then perhaps its time to find a new line of work.
> (No, I'm not targeting you in particular, I meant the statement in general.)
>
>
>
>
> I'd love if you can help me understand why this is bad news in your
> opinion.
>
>
>
> -dhs
>
>
>
> Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
>
> dean at fullfrontalnerdity.com
>
> "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
>
>
> --Einstein
>
>
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>
> On Aug 2, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Brian Whitfield / Essential Resources wrote:
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>
>
>  Not entirely java unrelated (we'll compete with these guys for jobs)
>
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> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9027525
>
> I don't consider this good news. You can bet most of them will not be
> local Atlanta people that are hired. I've sent the GA congressman emails
> stating we should fight this. Maybe all the ajug members should do the same.
>
>
> Brian Whitfield
>
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