[ajug-members] favorite IDE

Fri Aug 11 07:43:01 EDT 2006

Ya, and that's another great things about Maven.  You can generate an  
Ant build file based off of your current Maven build (pom.xml) for  
your developers/users/customers who don't have Maven.  As your  
project grows and matures, you can regenerate anything again at any  
time (Eclipse configs, Ant build scripts, etc, etc).

Oh!  And don't *even* get me started on Archetypes,  you'll be  
drooling after 2 minutes.

--
James Mitchell
678.910.8017

On Aug 10, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Justin Meads wrote:

> We don't use Eclipse for our build process (only development).  We  
> use CruiseControl to keep us honest and our production builds are  
> performed on Unix with Ant (which recursively calls make to build  
> the C++ portion of the app).
>
> -Justin
>
> On Aug 10, 2006, at 3:11 PM, Howard Kapustein wrote:
>
>>> With Maven 2, you simply tell it you want Hibernate and what version
>> and
>>> it will get and use *that* Hibernate versions dependencies
>> THAT is what I'm looking for.
>>
>> I want - need - to specify what my project uses, what versions are  
>> used,
>> and ensure "the right thing happens" e.g. given environment variables
>> (or the like)
>>
>> HIBERNATE_DIR=c:\hibernate
>> HIBERNATE_VER=3.0.3
>>
>> where ***these are not 'owned' by Eclipse***. Jamming those in a  
>> trivial
>> .batch file or .shell script and feeding them to various tools is a
>> necessity. For those of us who <gasp> use more than just Eclipse  
>> in our
>> build process (interactively as well as automated).
>>
>> When I jam versions and paths into Eclipse (be it .classpath or
>> workspace property files) I lose that flexibility and control.
>>
>> For those of you who have no qualms living, breathing and ONLY using
>> Eclipse as the 'parent' master process, more power to you. But I  
>> think
>> you've misspelled emacs.
>>
>>
>> Maven 2 sounds interesting.
>>
>> 	- Howard
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
>> [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of James Mitchell
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:29 PM
>> To: Users Group Atlanta Java
>> Subject: Re: [ajug-members] favorite IDE
>>
>> I was replying and realized this might make a good blog, so...
>>
>>   http://jamesmitchell.us/space/start/2006-08-10/1#Eclipse_gripes
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> James Mitchell
>> 678.910.8017
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Dan Marchant wrote:
>>
>>> That is a good tip for the source control settings.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/06, Justin Meads <justin at holabola.com> wrote:
>>>> We add our .project and .classpath files to version control.   
>>>> When we
>>>> pull the project from SVN, it just works.
>>>>
>>>> You can also export/import all of your Eclipse preferences which is
>>>> nice.  In Eclipse choose
>>>>
>>>>   FIle -> Export -> General -> Preferences -> Check Export All ->
>>>> Click Finish
>>>>
>>>> Reverse the process to import into a new workspace.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Justin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 10, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Dan Marchant wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have found that in most cases eclipse recognizes the project
>>>> source
>>>>> files with creating a new project and pointing it to an existing
>>>> root
>>>>> folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a bit annoyed with the project concept since in most cases
>>>> people
>>>>> work on a "product" not a project. Project are usually instances
>>>> of a
>>>>> product.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other thing that annoys me about eclipse (which has work
>>>> arounds)
>>>>> is when creating a new workspace you have to reset all your source
>>>>> control settings. For instance, I use the workspace as a way to
>>>> have
>>>>> multiple branches setup at a time. I usually copy the metadata
>>>>> directory and it helps a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> In general, IDEs need better support for branches and release on a
>>>>> product line.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2 cents and vents
>>>>>
>>>>> - Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/10/06, Burr Sutter <burr.sutter at jboss.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You might be right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every development team has a unique project/folder/build  
>>>>>> structure
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> pull that into an IDE takes too much effort in some cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eclipse's import project from Ant trick has failed me before.
>>>>>> What has
>>>>>> been the rest of your collective experiences?  Perhaps Netbeans
>>>>>> performs
>>>>>> better this case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Burr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
>>>>>> [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Kammy
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:43 AM
>>>>>> To: ajug-members at ajug.org
>>>>>> Subject: [ajug-members] favorite IDE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess I am a dinosaur. I use xemacs and vi.  I tried
>>>>>> using eclipse 1 X, but didn't like the whole project
>>>>>> thing, etc, which I can't stand about IDE's anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kammy
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