[ajug-members] favorite IDE

[Howard Kapustein]

>With Maven 2, you simply tell it you want Hibernate and what version
and
>it will get and use *that* Hibernate versions dependencies
THAT is what I'm looking for.

I want - need - to specify what my project uses, what versions are used,
and ensure "the right thing happens" e.g. given environment variables
(or the like)

HIBERNATE_DIR=c:\hibernate
HIBERNATE_VER=3.0.3

where ***these are not 'owned' by Eclipse***. Jamming those in a trivial
.batch file or .shell script and feeding them to various tools is a
necessity. For those of us who <gasp> use more than just Eclipse in our
build process (interactively as well as automated).

When I jam versions and paths into Eclipse (be it .classpath or
workspace property files) I lose that flexibility and control.

For those of you who have no qualms living, breathing and ONLY using
Eclipse as the 'parent' master process, more power to you. But I think
you've misspelled emacs.


Maven 2 sounds interesting.

	- Howard
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
[mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of James Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:29 PM
To: Users Group Atlanta Java
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] favorite IDE

I was replying and realized this might make a good blog, so...

  http://jamesmitchell.us/space/start/2006-08-10/1#Eclipse_gripes



--
James Mitchell
678.910.8017




On Aug 10, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Dan Marchant wrote:

> That is a good tip for the source control settings.
>
>
> On 8/10/06, Justin Meads <justin at holabola.com> wrote:
>> We add our .project and .classpath files to version control.  When we
>> pull the project from SVN, it just works.
>>
>> You can also export/import all of your Eclipse preferences which is
>> nice.  In Eclipse choose
>>
>>   FIle -> Export -> General -> Preferences -> Check Export All ->
>> Click Finish
>>
>> Reverse the process to import into a new workspace.
>>
>> Regards, Justin
>>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Dan Marchant wrote:
>>
>> > I have found that in most cases eclipse recognizes the project  
>> source
>> > files with creating a new project and pointing it to an existing  
>> root
>> > folder.
>> >
>> > I am a bit annoyed with the project concept since in most cases  
>> people
>> > work on a "product" not a project. Project are usually instances  
>> of a
>> > product.
>> >
>> > The other thing that annoys me about eclipse (which has work  
>> arounds)
>> > is when creating a new workspace you have to reset all your source
>> > control settings. For instance, I use the workspace as a way to  
>> have
>> > multiple branches setup at a time. I usually copy the metadata
>> > directory and it helps a bit.
>> >
>> > In general, IDEs need better support for branches and release on a
>> > product line.
>> >
>> > My 2 cents and vents
>> >
>> > - Dan
>> >
>> > On 8/10/06, Burr Sutter <burr.sutter at jboss.com> wrote:
>> >> You might be right.
>> >>
>> >> Every development team has a unique project/folder/build structure
>> >> and
>> >> pull that into an IDE takes too much effort in some cases.
>> >>
>> >> Eclipse's import project from Ant trick has failed me before.
>> >> What has
>> >> been the rest of your collective experiences?  Perhaps Netbeans
>> >> performs
>> >> better this case.
>> >>
>> >> Burr
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
>> >> [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Kammy
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:43 AM
>> >> To: ajug-members at ajug.org
>> >> Subject: [ajug-members] favorite IDE
>> >>
>> >> I guess I am a dinosaur. I use xemacs and vi.  I tried
>> >> using eclipse 1 X, but didn't like the whole project
>> >> thing, etc, which I can't stand about IDE's anyway.
>> >>
>> >> Kammy
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