[ajug-members] Your favorite IDE

Mon Aug 7 09:23:05 EDT 2006

>Liquid cake with as much or more caffeine then coffee.

If you're looking for "NoDoze" in something other than tablet form, true
Cola Blak. I had to drive to/from Florida in the dead of night recently
and a swig of that makes a cup of coffee look like herbal tea by
comparison :->

	- Howard

-----Original Message-----
From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
[mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Dan Marchant
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:19 PM
To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE

Howard maybe you should try and find a place that serves an Angelina
Hot Chocolate.
Liquid cake with as much or more caffeine then coffee.
Plus it has the china...
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Beverage/HotChocolate.htm

:)

On 8/3/06, Howard Kapustein <hkapustein at manh.com> wrote:
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> >but  I always wonder... WHAT MORE CAN PEOPLE ASK FOR FROM
> AN IDE???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..
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> That it be fast, efficient, easily customizable and easily scriptable,
and
> work the way I do (not the other way around).
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> I want my cake, I want to eat it, and I'd like that served on fine
china
> with linen napkins and a hot coffee, black with sugar please.
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>             - Howard
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>  ________________________________
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> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
[mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org]
> On Behalf Of Shanmuganathan Srinivasan
>  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:21 AM
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>  To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
>  Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
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> MyEclipse.
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> I have tried IDEA 2 years back and i was using it for like 3 to 4
> months....later i found eclipse
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> and i was able to do everything i did with IDEA in MyEclipse plus tons
of
> plugins......
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> May be some people like the interface of IDEA  but it's very much ok
for the
> price....
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>
>
>
> but  I always wonder... WHAT MORE CAN PEOPLE ASK FOR FROM
> AN IDE???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..apart from specific capabilities....Can it
code
> business logic??..;-))
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> I haven't tried the recent ones of IDEA though.....Can anyone list few
> things which are better in IDEA as compared to Myeclipse.
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> and one more thing...last but not least..
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> I love EDITPLUS as a plain text editor...may be because i learnt java
in
> that piece of software..:-))
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> Sooooo much light....but very capable of handling large files...can
connect
> to FTP...
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> edit remote files..macros and lot...I never use VI...instead i connect
to
> the box and edit the files...whenever i have FTP access to the box..
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> Regs,
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> Shan
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> ----- Original Message ----
>  From: Dan Marchant <driedtoast at gmail.com>
>  To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
> <ajug-members at ajug.org>
>  Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:18:51 AM
>  Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
>
>
> I used Sun's Studio One tool which is based on NetBeans 5.0. The GUI
>  creation was nice  but I have to admit that the whole .Net IDE market
>  has the monopoly on good UI creation.
>
>  Take a look at the free IDE:
>  http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx
>
>  Net Beans is getting better though at the web based GUI design. This
>  is an area where the Java community could surpase the .Net community
>  if we tried.
>
>  - Dan
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>
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>  On 8/3/06, Howard Kapustein <hkapustein at manh.com> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I've looked at it briefly; it's on my TODO list to dive back into
deeper,
>  > but you probably won't find many users - yet.
>  >
>  > (a)     It's new
>  >
>  > (b)     5.0 may rival (or surpass) Eclipse in many ways, but 4.x
was
>  > definitely weaker than Eclipse
>  >
>  > (c)     Eclipse has built a strong community for plugins and
extensions
>  >
>  > (d)     A lot of Java work is 'corporate', which usually entails
>  > 'standardization' and slower pace of change
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > In the (semi-recent) past NetBeans was nice but never quite nice
enough
>  > compared to the alternatives, _except_ for Swing development.
NetBeans
> 4.x
>  > was no Visual Basic <sigh>, but it was the only _free_ 'GUI
builder'
> worth a
>  > damn that I could find. Matisse sounds promising, which is one of
the big
>  > reasons NetBeans is only my list to toy with. In my copious free
time...
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Even if you do 'server'/headless work, there's always little
utilities
> you
>  > want to slap a UI on. I've done GUI/event programming by hand,
because
> I've
>  > had to, but life's too short to bother w/o some kind of 'form
builder'.
> I'm
>  > interested to hear if anyone's used NetBeans 5.0 for some casual UI
work.
>  > How's it compare to previous versions? How's it compare to VB
(still the
>  > closest thing to a perfect RAD tool I've ever seen)?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >             - Howard
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  ________________________________
>  >
>  >
>  > From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
> [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org]
>  > On Behalf Of Carr Harriman
>  >  Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:43 AM
>  >
>  >  To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
>  >  Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
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>  > Am I the only one using NetBeans 5.0?  Has anyone else taken a look
at
> it?
>  > I'm partial to that version over Eclipse, but I'll admit I've only
used
>  > Eclipse a few times, and never have used MyEclipse or IntelliJ
(although
>  > after some of the comments on this thread, I think I'll have to
give it a
>  > try!).
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -Carr Harriman
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On 8/3/06, Steve Finch <Sfinch at manh.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > Our company purchased multiple licenses from Exadel, but a lot of
>  >  developers here are upset by how much memory it uses.  It was
chosen for
>  >  its JSF support and replaced an old version of MyEclipse.
>  >
>  >  Me personally?  I like Eclipse (with or without Exadel) but fall
back to
>  >  vim whenever mass edits are required.
>  >
>  >  Steve Finch
>  >  Manhattan Associates
>  >
>  >  -----Original Message-----
>  >  From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
>  >  [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Burr Sutter
>  >  Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:25 PM
>  >  To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
>  >  Subject: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
>  >
>  >  Hey Folks,
>  >
>  >  I'm just curious about what your favorite IDE is.  Just an
informal
>  >  quick survey on what tools you are using to build Java based
>  >  applications.
>  >
>  >  a) Eclipse (where you've pulled in all the plug-ins you want)
>  >  b) MyEclipse
>  >  c) Exadel
>  >  d) Netbeans
>  >  e) Text Editor (vi, emacs, ultraedit, jedit, etc)
>  >  f) IBM WSAD/RAD
>  >  g) BEA Workshop
>  >  h) Other
>  >
>  >
>  >  Burr
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