[ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
Howard Kapustein
hkapustein at manh.com
Thu Aug 3 12:12:29 EDT 2006
>but I always wonder... WHAT MORE CAN PEOPLE ASK FOR FROM AN
IDE???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..
That it be fast, efficient, easily customizable and easily scriptable,
and work the way I do (not the other way around).
I want my cake, I want to eat it, and I'd like that served on fine china
with linen napkins and a hot coffee, black with sugar please.
- Howard
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From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
[mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Shanmuganathan
Srinivasan
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:21 AM
To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
MyEclipse.
I have tried IDEA 2 years back and i was using it for like 3 to 4
months....later i found eclipse
and i was able to do everything i did with IDEA in MyEclipse plus tons
of plugins......
May be some people like the interface of IDEA but it's very much ok for
the price....
but I always wonder... WHAT MORE CAN PEOPLE ASK FOR FROM AN
IDE???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..apart from specific capabilities....Can it code
business logic??..;-))
I haven't tried the recent ones of IDEA though.....Can anyone list few
things which are better in IDEA as compared to Myeclipse.
and one more thing...last but not least..
I love EDITPLUS as a plain text editor...may be because i learnt java in
that piece of software..:-))
Sooooo much light....but very capable of handling large files...can
connect to FTP...
edit remote files..macros and lot...I never use VI...instead i connect
to the box and edit the files...whenever i have FTP access to the box..
Regs,
Shan
----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Marchant <driedtoast at gmail.com>
To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
<ajug-members at ajug.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:18:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
I used Sun's Studio One tool which is based on NetBeans 5.0. The GUI
creation was nice but I have to admit that the whole .Net IDE market
has the monopoly on good UI creation.
Take a look at the free IDE:
http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx
Net Beans is getting better though at the web based GUI design. This
is an area where the Java community could surpase the .Net community
if we tried.
- Dan
On 8/3/06, Howard Kapustein <hkapustein at manh.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I've looked at it briefly; it's on my TODO list to dive back into
deeper,
> but you probably won't find many users - yet.
>
> (a) It's new
>
> (b) 5.0 may rival (or surpass) Eclipse in many ways, but 4.x was
> definitely weaker than Eclipse
>
> (c) Eclipse has built a strong community for plugins and
extensions
>
> (d) A lot of Java work is 'corporate', which usually entails
> 'standardization' and slower pace of change
>
>
>
> In the (semi-recent) past NetBeans was nice but never quite nice
enough
> compared to the alternatives, _except_ for Swing development. NetBeans
4.x
> was no Visual Basic <sigh>, but it was the only _free_ 'GUI builder'
worth a
> damn that I could find. Matisse sounds promising, which is one of the
big
> reasons NetBeans is only my list to toy with. In my copious free
time...
>
>
>
>
>
> Even if you do 'server'/headless work, there's always little utilities
you
> want to slap a UI on. I've done GUI/event programming by hand, because
I've
> had to, but life's too short to bother w/o some kind of 'form
builder'. I'm
> interested to hear if anyone's used NetBeans 5.0 for some casual UI
work.
> How's it compare to previous versions? How's it compare to VB (still
the
> closest thing to a perfect RAD tool I've ever seen)?
>
>
>
> - Howard
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
[mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org]
> On Behalf Of Carr Harriman
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 8:43 AM
>
> To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
> Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Am I the only one using NetBeans 5.0? Has anyone else taken a look at
it?
> I'm partial to that version over Eclipse, but I'll admit I've only
used
> Eclipse a few times, and never have used MyEclipse or IntelliJ
(although
> after some of the comments on this thread, I think I'll have to give
it a
> try!).
>
>
>
>
>
> -Carr Harriman
>
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>
>
> On 8/3/06, Steve Finch <Sfinch at manh.com> wrote:
>
> Our company purchased multiple licenses from Exadel, but a lot of
> developers here are upset by how much memory it uses. It was chosen
for
> its JSF support and replaced an old version of MyEclipse.
>
> Me personally? I like Eclipse (with or without Exadel) but fall back
to
> vim whenever mass edits are required.
>
> Steve Finch
> Manhattan Associates
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
> [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Burr Sutter
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:25 PM
> To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
> Subject: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I'm just curious about what your favorite IDE is. Just an informal
> quick survey on what tools you are using to build Java based
> applications.
>
> a) Eclipse (where you've pulled in all the plug-ins you want)
> b) MyEclipse
> c) Exadel
> d) Netbeans
> e) Text Editor (vi, emacs, ultraedit, jedit, etc)
> f) IBM WSAD/RAD
> g) BEA Workshop
> h) Other
>
>
> Burr
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