[ajug-members] Your favorite IDE

[Carr Harriman]

Howard, you asked about the UI development in NetBeans 5.0...well, I haven't
done any Swing since college (about 7 years), so needless to say I had
hardly a clue about what I was doing.  However, I was able to build a
pointless app which renames all the files in a directory against an input
file in about an hour.  Looks very nice, incredibly simple.  I don't have
much UI experience in general, especially with other IDEs so I don't quite
know how it stacks up, but seemed very good to me.  Definitely check it out.



On 8/3/06, Howard Kapustein <hkapustein at manh.com> wrote:
>
> NetBeans does it for C++ and SQL and Python and shell script and...?
>
> Not all of us live in a 100% Pure Java world.
>
>        - Howard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
> [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Gang Wang
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:07 AM
> To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
> Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
>
> NetBeans does it too.  I use NetBeans, and love it since moved to 5.0.
>
> On 8/3/06, Howard Kapustein <hkapustein at manh.com> wrote:
> > ConTEXT is great if you ever do code reviews.
> > Only tool I've found which prints source code well -- line numbers
> plus
> > proper fonting (comments in italics, keywords in bold). Works great
> when
> > you need a bunch of folks around the room referencing the same thing.
> >
> >         - Howard
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
> > [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Dan Marchant
> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:12 AM
> > To: General AJUG membership forum (100-200 messages/month)
> > Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Your favorite IDE
> >
> > 1. Eclipse (with various plugins, DBExplorer, etc...)
> >     (Tried MyEclipse a bit bulky)
> > 2. Context - quick and dirty edits on windows, nice format
> > translations from dos to unix
> > 3. VI - quick and dirty edits on linux and unix flavors
> >
> > I have pretty much used the whole gamet at one time or another and
> > here is my feedback:
> >    - IDEA - nice features for templates and various code hinting, it
> > doesn't support really large projects broken across modules as well as
> > eclipse in my opinion. The incremental compile is a bit clunky.
> >   - JBuilder - was ok a while ago it's features have been passed by
> > eclipse and others. It did have one of the best supporting frameworks
> > for debugging application servers pre-eclipse
> >   - Visual Age for Java - Ok it isn't made anymore, but the UI had an
> > interesting approach of compilation units you can browse around and
> > everything could be browsed as reusable components. This was sometimes
> > annoying but the better features of the local repository, etc... are
> > now in eclipse.
> >   - TogetherJ - was a bit bloaty some recent changes to the eclipse
> > framework are making it faster. I liked the roundtrip features a lot
> > can't beat them with any other editor.
> >   - Netbeans - well I think SUN should really kill this project. It
> > could have been an eclipse type framework but they bloated it up and
> > had some developers working on it that didn't know anything about
> > performance and object creation. Has a clunky interface... I do hear
> > it is getting faster now could be related to Java 1.5's swing
> > improvements though.
> >
> > One thing that is getting to me though is how large all the IDEs are
> > getting. This is quite annoying for anyone that just wants to code,
> > build and test. Some of the additions are ok, but half the time not
> > used.
> >
> > An interesting followup questions to the group would be:
> > 1.  What features do you use in the IDE of choice?
> > 2.  What profiler do you use?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dan Marchant
> > On 8/2/06, Burr Sutter <burrsutter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey Folks,
> > >
> > > I'm just curious about what your favorite IDE is.  Just an informal
> > > quick survey on what tools you are using to build Java based
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > a) Eclipse (where you've pulled in all the plug-ins you want)
> > > b) MyEclipse
> > > c) Exadel
> > > d) Netbeans
> > > e) Text Editor (vi, emacs, ultraedit, jedit, etc)
> > > f) IBM WSAD/RAD
> > > g) BEA Workshop
> > > h) Other
> > >
> > >
> > > Burr
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