[ajug-members] JSPs or servlets for VIEW --- looking for opinions..

John Coctosen john.coctosen at gmail.com
Thu Jul 1 11:59:28 EDT 2004


I prefer struts and jsp for the view portion of mvc, my experience
with servlets is that it can be clunky and tedious to display HTML
(which may be improved by the servlet XSL combo you mentioned)

I don't dislike JSF, but its billed alot as the improved struts and as
a current struts developer, I am more interested in the REAL struts
2.0.  I will be looking with great interest as the struts-jsf debate
moves forward.  I hope that they merge down the line rather than
having 2 competing frameworks.  I think both have their strong points
and it would be great to have them in one package rather than have to
make a choice.

Though to your point, I often am left with no choice but to include
business logic in the jsp.  Not often, but sometimes I am left with
little practical choice and it kills me.  Custom tags help, but often
slow my development and its "easier" (lazy) to stick it in.

And I don't want to use the list resources, but since I feel there
might be some interest, if any of you out there are interested in a
gmail invite, email me off the list and I'll help as many of you that
I can.  I have plenty of extras and figure this crowd might have a few
that are interested.

Matt Thebert


On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 07:56:49 -0500, Barnes, Michael D
<michael.barnes at bellsouth.com> wrote:
> 
> >From my experience both options are equally valid choices. Personally
> though, I like the servlet XSL combination since it makes it less likely
> for the developer to embed business or data logic into the presentation
> layer.
> 
> The JSP route is good since it is still being actively refined with the
> advent of Java Faces which is a next generation JSP based as I
> understand it on struts. If you do go the JSP route, look into custom
> tags which will help componentized your presentation.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org
> [mailto:ajug-members-bounces at ajug.org] On Behalf Of Lykins Don H Contr
> AFSAC/ITS
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:34 AM
> To: 'ajug-members at ajug.org'
> Subject: [ajug-members] JSPs or servlets for VIEW --- looking for
> opinions..
> 
> Hey,,
> 
> JSP's or Servlets to generate the View (html) for an MVC architecture..
> 
> which one is better??
> 
> also, anyone heard of MVC Model 2+  (note the "+")
> 
> any comments are appreciated...
> 
> Don Lykins
> AFSAC
> 937-257-4295 x4539
> don.lykins at wpafb.af.mil
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