Re: [ajug-members]: Eclipse performance on linux... (A poll maybe?)

[Andy <anand@gmx.net>]

Hey,

Here's an update!

After a lot of coaxing, I got my Admin to rip a copy of all the Eclipse 
linux ports(2.1.2 release and 3.0M7 stable) and an IBM jre for myself. And
since then, things are looking great! I am not having any of the glitches
I mentioned below. Though the responsiveness is just about bearable. 

Also, a weird problem when I was not able to run any debug sessions. 
Got this error:
FATAL ERROR in native method: No transports initialized

It seemed, it was not able to resolve the gethostbyname() call which I
resolved by adding a hard IP entry in /etc/hosts. Working fine since then.

Currently, running 3.0M7, with IBM jre141. Also, have got this great plugin
Lomboz (http://www.objectlearn.com/index.jsp) going. The next target is to 
setup and get acquainted with the JBoss application server... 

Well, after reading unbelievable statement made by the folks at Sun and
Microsoft, I wonder if these are just the beginnings of things to come...
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-5184793.html

: Andy

On Tuesday 09 March 2004 02:50 am, Andy wrote:
> (Note this is my observation... and may not necessarily be true in general)
>
> This may not sound very good, but I am yet to see/hear people running
> Eclipse without any kind of trouble on their linux boxes...  (No setup
> probs, no runtime glitches, glitches because of the linux distro etc, etc.
> The kind of Eclipse usage I am looking at is, Eclipse being used as the
> primary tool (IDE) for an enterprise level project/app development with p/f
> linux)
>
> I have been an IDEA user for almost 3 years now and recently (2 months
> back) shifted to Eclipse(An aftermath of a career move from my good old
> co.) This migration has been really neat and anyways Eclipse was the but
> natural choice. My dev p/f at work is win2k and eclipse runs fine (Though
> the official IDE used is JBuilder 7 and surprisingly I am the only one
> using Eclipse out here (comments on JBuilder left alone).
>
> Come home, running Eclipse212 on a P4 1.7 GHz, 640 MB RAM machine, with
> MDK9.1 and KDE3.1, its ouch. The performance is really not up-to the mark
> and I wonder at the claims of speedy and responsive GUI, la SWT. Well, I am
> not trying to flame NOR rekindle the Swing or SWT, Swing vs SWT debate...
> but this is as I see it. And for people who wanna see a REAL swing
> application rock on either win/lin platforms, try IntelliJ IDEA and then
> tell me at least one application even matching it in terms of performance,
> responsiveness back to back on both platforms (Well, this besides all the
> FANTASTIC features of IDEA).
>
> I have been fighting these crashes, errors in the native methods, throwing
> unexpected exceptions further crashes, unbelievable scenarios such as
> problems within the gtk galaxy theme... its further patches for fix...
> shh... And all this with compatible VMs and commandline options. And wo ho
> guys, try a remote debug thingy with say the WLS server VM... Never ever
> have I seen my swap space being utilized to this extent... Further more I
> hate to run a GTK application in KDE...
>
> I know professionally one cannot dictate the development p/f, but given a
> choice, I wouldn't be surprised if majority choose linux. If I am not
> wrong, some linux distros even carry Eclipse...
>
> I have been a linux enthusiast and have tried to push java in such forums.
> I do believe that linux and java make a great combination. But these forums
> are pro linux and one of the worst bashing I got once was like:
>
> <snip>
>
> >...
> >I do not like java. I do not like trading hardware platform for a software
> >platform namely JVM.
> >...
>
> </snip>
>
> Not to forget the JRE incompatibilities... This goes off topic...
>
> So, all in all, a thumbs up for Eclipse, but a thumbs down for Eclipse
> running on linux...
>
> : Andy