RE: [ajug-members]: Wal-Mart.com's Sun Desktop PCs

[Angus Berry <angus.berry@elken.com>]

I would guess that JWS will be Sun's chosen rich Internet application
delivery then, to pass Swing to the browser as Sun's chosen platform, if
they're set on Swing?

Looking at rich client initiatives from 30,000 feet, it seems to me that
streaming XML from the server to the browser, describing the UI and
having the browser assemble that UI is the most efficient way to layer
on top of development we're already doing... kind of HTML on steroids.

Additionally, in the real world, effective caching of the app. is
essential for the growth of wireless apps that can roam in and out of
coverage and still function for client Borg drones that are disconnected
from the collective.

Is Microsoft's XAML initiative really tied to Longhorm? If it is, it
sounds like the door's wide open for others to take the lead... which
doesn't sound like MS's MO (modus operandi).

I would think the Open Source community could mimic something like Flex,
but might consider the final delivery, Flash client to be incongruent
with Open Source development.

On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 12:27, Burr Sutter wrote:
> This is interesting!  Sun products at Wal-Mart.
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> Plus last week˙s news about Sun and Microsoft agreeing to place nice:
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> http://www.sun.com/smi/Press/sunflash/2004-04/sunflash.20040402.3.html
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> It is my understanding that the Mozilla on Sun Desktop will support
> XUL.  I don˙t know about a Flash plug-in.  
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> Flex is $12K for 2 CPUs it is server-based and allows you to generate
> a Flash application on the fly. I tried it with Tomcat 5.  Very cool
> stuff.
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> But it seems to me that Sun intends to push Swing as the primary means
> of application development.
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> That assumption is based upon a quick review of this website.
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> http://community.java.net/javadesktop/
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> Burr
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> ______________________________________________________________________
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> From: Angus Berry [mailto:angus.berry@elken.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:34 AM
> To: ajug-members@ajug.org
> Subject: [ajug-members]: Wal-Mart.com's Sun Desktop PCs
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> I thought that Sun was targeting corporate clients with their Linux
> disto, but seems they jumped into the consumer waters for $298 at
> walmart.com:
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> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product_listing.gsp?cat=132690&path=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A41937%3A86796%3A132690
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> I have  a few for questions about rich browser clients for anyone who
> knows the Sun Java Desktop OS:
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> -What browser is the default?
> If it's Mozilla are they including a full Mozilla with XUL
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> -Are they including Macromedia Flash in their browser, for folks
> developing Flex GUIs.
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> -Are they pre-installing JWS?
> I suppose this doesn't really matter as it's designed to be self
> installing from a web page.
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> I'm interested to see where Sun's new OS fits in to all the current
> activity around rich Internet application delivery. 
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