Re: [ajug-members]: Eclipse performance on linux... (A poll maybe?)

["Lisle E. Mose" <lisle.mose@onlinebankingsolutions.com>]

I've seen many of these same problems running Eclipse on Linux. 
However, converting to the "Simple" theme seemed to improve things
dramatically.  I've been very pleased with the behavior and performance
since then.

-Lisle

On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 16:20, Andy wrote:
> (Note this is my observation... and may not necessarily be true in general)
> 
> This may not sound very good, but I am yet to see/hear people running
> Eclipse without any kind of trouble on their linux boxes...  (No setup probs, 
> no runtime glitches, glitches because of the linux distro etc, etc. The kind
> of Eclipse usage I am looking at is, Eclipse being used as the primary tool
> (IDE) for an enterprise level project/app development with p/f linux)
> 
> I have been an IDEA user for almost 3 years now and recently (2 months back)
> shifted to Eclipse(An aftermath of a career move from my good old co.) This 
> migration has been really neat and anyways Eclipse was the but natural
> choice. My dev p/f at work is win2k and eclipse runs fine (Though the official
> IDE used is JBuilder 7 and surprisingly I am the only one using Eclipse out
> here (comments on JBuilder left alone).
> 
> Come home, running Eclipse212 on a P4 1.7 GHz, 640 MB RAM machine, with
> MDK9.1 and KDE3.1, its ouch. The performance is really not up-to the mark 
> and I wonder at the claims of speedy and responsive GUI, la SWT. Well, I am
> not trying to flame NOR rekindle the Swing or SWT, Swing vs SWT debate... 
> but this is as I see it. And for people who wanna see a REAL swing application 
> rock on either win/lin platforms, try IntelliJ IDEA and then tell me at least 
> one application even matching it in terms of performance, responsiveness 
> back to back on both platforms (Well, this besides all the FANTASTIC
> features of IDEA).
> 
> I have been fighting these crashes, errors in the native methods, throwing 
> unexpected exceptions further crashes, unbelievable scenarios such as
> problems within the gtk galaxy theme... its further patches for fix... shh... 
> And all this with compatible VMs and commandline options. And wo ho guys,
> try a remote debug thingy with say the WLS server VM... Never ever have I 
> seen my swap space being utilized to this extent... Further more I hate to run
> a GTK application in KDE...
> 
> I know professionally one cannot dictate the development p/f, but given a 
> choice, I wouldn't be surprised if majority choose linux. If I am not wrong, 
> some linux distros even carry Eclipse... 
> 
> I have been a linux enthusiast and have tried to push java in such forums.
> I do believe that linux and java make a great combination. But these forums 
> are pro linux and one of the worst bashing I got once was like:
> 
> <snip>
> >...
> >I do not like java. I do not like trading hardware platform for a software 
> >platform namely JVM.
> >...
> </snip>
> 
> Not to forget the JRE incompatibilities... This goes off topic...
> 
> So, all in all, a thumbs up for Eclipse, but a thumbs down for Eclipse
> running on linux... 
> 
> : Andy