Re: [ajug-members]: Eclipse performance on linux... (A poll maybe?)

[Jason Chambers <tooger@bellsouth.net>]

I have had no problems running Eclipse (actually MyEclipse) on SuSE 9.0 on 
my laptop. There are a few graphics glitches but very stable. I can't  say 
the same for Eclipse on Mac OS X which (2.1.1) crashes on a regular basis.

Jason

At 02:50 AM 3/9/2004 +0530, Andy wrote:
>(Note this is my observation... and may not necessarily be true in general)
>
>This may not sound very good, but I am yet to see/hear people running
>Eclipse without any kind of trouble on their linux boxes...  (No setup probs,
>no runtime glitches, glitches because of the linux distro etc, etc. The kind
>of Eclipse usage I am looking at is, Eclipse being used as the primary tool
>(IDE) for an enterprise level project/app development with p/f linux)
>
>I have been an IDEA user for almost 3 years now and recently (2 months back)
>shifted to Eclipse(An aftermath of a career move from my good old co.) This
>migration has been really neat and anyways Eclipse was the but natural
>choice. My dev p/f at work is win2k and eclipse runs fine (Though the official
>IDE used is JBuilder 7 and surprisingly I am the only one using Eclipse out
>here (comments on JBuilder left alone).
>
>Come home, running Eclipse212 on a P4 1.7 GHz, 640 MB RAM machine, with
>MDK9.1 and KDE3.1, its ouch. The performance is really not up-to the mark
>and I wonder at the claims of speedy and responsive GUI, la SWT. Well, I am
>not trying to flame NOR rekindle the Swing or SWT, Swing vs SWT debate...
>but this is as I see it. And for people who wanna see a REAL swing 
>application
>rock on either win/lin platforms, try IntelliJ IDEA and then tell me at least
>one application even matching it in terms of performance, responsiveness
>back to back on both platforms (Well, this besides all the FANTASTIC
>features of IDEA).
>
>I have been fighting these crashes, errors in the native methods, throwing
>unexpected exceptions further crashes, unbelievable scenarios such as
>problems within the gtk galaxy theme... its further patches for fix... shh...
>And all this with compatible VMs and commandline options. And wo ho guys,
>try a remote debug thingy with say the WLS server VM... Never ever have I
>seen my swap space being utilized to this extent... Further more I hate to run
>a GTK application in KDE...
>
>I know professionally one cannot dictate the development p/f, but given a
>choice, I wouldn't be surprised if majority choose linux. If I am not wrong,
>some linux distros even carry Eclipse...
>
>I have been a linux enthusiast and have tried to push java in such forums.
>I do believe that linux and java make a great combination. But these forums
>are pro linux and one of the worst bashing I got once was like:
>
><snip>
> >...
> >I do not like java. I do not like trading hardware platform for a software
> >platform namely JVM.
> >...
></snip>
>
>Not to forget the JRE incompatibilities... This goes off topic...
>
>So, all in all, a thumbs up for Eclipse, but a thumbs down for Eclipse
>running on linux...
>
>: Andy
>
>--
>If two wrongs don't make a right, try three.
>                 -- Laurence J. Peter