Re: IDE & vim

[Chris Fowler <cfowler@outpostsentinel.com>]

<flamebait>
The one thing that always turned me away from OSS IDE's like Eclipse,
NetBeans, was the lack of overall good support for the tools that I
needed.  I tried them all but always reverted back to VIM or Jbuilder.
</flamebait>

I do not need all vi features.  I just need to ability to not have to
mentally switch edit modes in my head.  This is one of the reasons I use
VIM more than JBuilder.

One feature that is a must is code completion.  To get the level of code
completion that VSE supported, I add to add plug-ins.  Most of the
times, the plug-ins never worked that well.  VSE will also do code
completion for ctags.  VSE lacks only one thing and that is GUI builder.
I've got a friend that built a J2EE app using just VSE.

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 20:26, Christopher R. Gardner wrote:
> IntelliJ IDEA v3 has a vi plugin, which includes only a subset of vi features.
> It also has a UML plugin that can render your classes and allows refactoring
> (interestingly, it currently does not allow you to create classes on a diagram).
> 
> It would be nice if IDEA had some Eclipse features such as resorting fields and
> methods according to some criteria.  Nonetheless, add me to the list of IDEA
> fans.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "george wang" <george_wang@bellsouth.net>
> To: <ajug-members@ajug.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: IDE & vim
> 
> 
> > It appears intelliJ/ecclipse are the top two ides by reading the emails.
> > Wonder if they support vi/vim/jvi editors?
> >
> > George
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerzy Puchala" <jerzypuc@scdi.com>
> > To: "Jim Worthington" <jim.worthington@worthsoft.com>
> > Cc: <ajug-members@ajug.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:57 PM
> > Subject: RE: IDE question
> >
> >
> > > I would suggest to take a look into CodeGuide from www.omnicore.com.
> > >
> > > I like this IDE very much. I cost much less that IDEA. It has also
> > > continuous syntax checking feature (in java nad jsp code). It also has
> > > 20 days trial so you can try it without paying. I tryed IDEA in v2, so
> > > I can't judge it right now - it was great back then. It had few flaws
> > > in code checking and works veeeeeery slow on multiprocessor machines.
> > > But it was by far the best refactoring tool on the market. Eclipse is
> > > my editor of choice now. It is not even close to IDEA or CodeGuide,
> > > but is few hundred bucks less expensive and I believe that version 4
> > > will have all the problems solved.
> > >
> > > Jerzy Puchala
> > >
> > > On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Jim Worthington wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm very happy with IDEA. The refactoring and continuous syntax checking
> > > > features have saved me a great deal of time and frustration. It's well
> > worth
> > > > the money.
> > > >
> > > > Jim Worthington
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > +--------------------------------+
> > > |         Jerzy Puchala          |
> > > +--------------------------------+
> > > |       jerzypuc@scdi.com        |
> > > +--------------------------------+
> > >
> >