RE: Certification value (was Bitwise operators)

["Gudavalli, Manidhar" <manidhar.gudavalli@eds.com>]

Goal oriented reading: (Except to those we read regularly). Certification
encourages to build knowledge required for programming. But it wont give you
the experience required for programming.   


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott P. Smith [mailto:ssmith@scott-smith.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:31 AM
To: ajug-members@www.ajug.org
Subject: Re: Certification value (was Bitwise operators)


Good point.

My sister-in-law is a dentist.  She had to pass 4 or 5 practical tests
including work on a live patient before she was allowed to practice.  The
tests are spread out over several days.  Each one takes about a day.

Practical tests for Java would have a lot more meaning to me.  For example,
you could have a 2 day test where you are given a requirements doc and
'locked in a room' with a computer until you design and implement a
solution.  Then an 'expert' tests and analyses your implementation.

The bad thing about these kinds of test are that they are expensive.  I
think it costs my sister-in-law about $5,000.  Considering how broad and
deep the software engineering field is, you could probably come up with
1,000 such $5,000 tests.  It becomes unworkable.

And even if someone did come up with tests like these, it would be hard to
overcome the anti-certification bias of people like me.  I would assume it
was the same old multiple choice test.

Scott


----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Smith" <chsmith@speakeasy.net>
To: "Marty Harvey" <martyharvey@bellsouth.net>
Cc: <ajug-members@www.ajug.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Certification value (was Bitwise operators)


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> >> I will probably offend many people by saying this, but I place no
> >> value in
> >> being certified.
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> I agree regarding SCJP.   Referring to beyond SCJP, analogously I'm glad
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> American Medical Assoc. doesn't feel that getting a BS in biology is
> sufficient
> to be an effective brain surgeon, there is also more to learn and is of
> essential
> value including and even beyond SCWCD, SCEA, IBM XML , , ,
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> curt
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