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RE: Java certification: is it worthwhile?





Camerin




From: James Picklesimer <ilogicdot@yahoo.com> on 11/02/2001 02:46 PM

To:   Chris Graham/ATL/ALLTELCORP@ALLTEL, ajug-members@ajug.org
cc:

Subject:  RE: Java certification: is it worthwhile?

Which John?

--- Chris.Graham@alltel.com wrote:
>
>
> I agree with John.  It seems like half the people I
> work with are "Cut & Paste"
> coders, and the ones that aren't all have one thing
> in common; their Java
> certifications (or are preparing to take the exam).
> I think of certification
> exams
> like extras on a car (Warning!!! Pathetic attempt at
> an analogy ahead); A nice
> stereo and shinny wheels aren't going to make you
> buy the car, but your probably
> willing to pay a bit more if you do decide to buy
> it.
>
> --Chris
>
>
>
> From: John Camerin <jcamerin@getthere.com> on
> 11/02/2001 01:33 PM
>
> To:   "John D. Mitchell"
> <johnm-advanced-java@non.net>, "Huang, Xueqin"
>       <Xueqin.Huang@acs-inc.com>
> cc:   ajug-members@ajug.org
>
> Subject:  RE: Java certification: is it worthwhile?
>
> I disagree... in this world of lousy, buggy code,
> its nice to know not only
> that people can write the code, but that they
> understand some of the
> fundamentals of writing good code.  There is some
> value to be gained in
> these certifications, but I do agree that you should
> not expect to be
> qualified for a job just because you are certified.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John D. Mitchell
> [mailto:johnm-advanced-java@non.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:07 PM
> To: Huang, Xueqin
> Cc: ajug-members@ajug.org
> Subject: RE: Java certification: is it worthwhile?
>
>
> >>>>> "Huang," == Huang, Xueqin
> <Xueqin.Huang@acs-inc.com> writes:
> > I'm going to get a Sun java architect certificate.
> Does any one know a
> > good source of getting a study guide on this, any
> books or papaers or
> > websites?  Thanks!
>
> Check out:
>
>      http://www.jguru.com/faq/JavaCertification
>
>
> FWIW, I think certification and "licensing" is Pure
> Evil(tm).  In hiring
> people, I could care less (and, if anything, if the
> candidate makes some
> big deal that they passed a such a test, that's a
> negative).  It's just yet
> another attempt to try to segregate folks based on
> worthless, irrelevant
> criteria.  IMNSHO, it's much more impressive to show
> projects and code that
> you have created (and that people use),
> articles/books that you've written,
> etc.
>
> Take care,
>      John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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