RE: .net is the futile. REBOL and be free.

[aaron <aaron@pd.org>]

Previously, Matt Kern typed into the ether:
> 
> It's also important to note that M$FT is not the only player in the new
> "Software as a service" movement.  Sun has also lauched several initiatives
> around the paradigm as well.

I have to agree that the whole ".NET" idea (.NOT?) is a borrowed one,
like most everything M$. The obvious goal (as if the goal could be
anything else for M$), is to usurp, manipulate and control the
protocols or formats used for internet communication and leverage that
into an expansion of their desktop monopoly. Hopefully the open and
public languages and protocols that created and sustain the internet
will prevail and, at least on the internet, people will still see
a free market.

I also have to point out that Sun may have been borrowing the
"services" internet idea, too. A genius OS programmer named Carl
Sassenrath has been brewing and builiding on the concept for over 15
years, the past several of which under the REBOL name.

If anyone here wants to see how efficiently and intelligently
a distributed internet is supposed to work, check out:

   http://www.REBOL.com/download.html

It takes about two minutes to DL Rebol VIEW and install the freely
distributable components. Once installed, it's just clicks on the
Rebol window icons to run demos, connect to Rebol sites and explore.
The environment is available for 42 platforms, so it should work
on *whatever* you are running.

It's all tiny, too, so you don't need to worry about resources. The
REBOL engine, with interface hooks, full TCP/IP stack and most internet
protocols and security built in, is about 580 kB for Linux/Unix  (may
be a bit more on the windoze version).

There are a couple hundred demo apps and examples available on
the main site most are under 5k. CGI utilities requiring a page of
PERL or JavaScript can often be scripted in REBOL's (human readable)
O-O language with as few 5 to 10 lines of code.

One of the cooler demos is a completely functional Instant Messenger
program, "RIM", that was written by the creator's 12 yr old son and
weighs in at 6 kB.

peace
(after justice)
aaron.r

PS:
Thought I'd better clarify that this is not an advert and I am not
directly affiliated with Rebol (I just have a lot of appreciation for
the work of Rebol's creator). This is simply very elegant, efficient
technology that could be of use to many internet professionals.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pros Chum [mailto:pros@codeedu.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:16 PM
> To: ajug-members@ajug.org
> Subject: RE: .net is the future!
> 
> 
> >From what I've seen about .NET, "software as a service" seems to resemble
> the business models of ASPs (Application Service Providers) last year; many
> of which did not survive despite the hype.  There's still many large issues
> that needs to be resolved with utilizing software remotely before this will
> take off.  However, with Microsoft's backing and commitment to this new
> technology, it's definitely something that shouldn't be ignored.
>  
> - Pros
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vaughn bell [mailto:vaughnyb@surfree.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 1:17 PM
> To: ajug-members@ajug.org
> Subject: .net is the future!
> 
> 
> I am a java programmer and just went the indepedant route for now. I
> strongly believe the future is .net! Software as a web service will change
> everything. Think about it, with .net as a platform (not an application) the
> 80% of the people in the world who now use Microsoft vb etc.will have to
> change to that platform.
> 
> Get it Now!
> 
> Get ready for a revolution again like windows 95.
> 
> Anyone intersted?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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