RE: any junior positions?

["Fernandez, Obed" <ObedF@mediaocean.com>]

Amen.

We are always looking for Java candidates with strong OO. We are an XP
shop and practice evolutionary design. if the developers don't have
strong OO design skills they're sunk. It doesn't matter how well they
know the Java language. You need to know enough to be a productive coder
from day one. If someone has been doing Java *every day* for even 3-6
months and is a *talented programmer* then they will do fine here BUT
they need to be referred. We are being extremely picky and the recruiter
will screen out based on years experience.

We have about 24 java people now. That number will probably double by
the end of the year the way things are going.

Obie Fernandez
Architect
Media Ocean
www.mediaocean.com

-----Original Message-----
From: kpullin@Dotsconnect.com
To:
jeffrey.mitchell%us.sema.com%TSYSINTERNET%TSYSEXTERNAL%TOTALSYSTEM@Dotsc
onnect.com
Cc: ajug-members@ajug.org
Sent: 7/3/2001 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: any junior positions?


You are kidding, aren't you???  The best thing that can happen is for
java
programmers to get scared and start learning VB and .net. Then when the
economy picks back up there will be fewer java programmers to compete
for
the jobs that come open.  If anyone wants to learn VB, let me know, I'll
be
more than happy to tutor anyone on my spare time.

On a more happier note, the company I work for has hired 9 java
programmers
in the last 2 weeks and we'll probably end up hiring 5-10 more in the
next
2 months.



 

                    "Mitchell, Jeffrey"

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William'" <mbryant@c-cor.net>,              
                    .sema.com>                  ajug-members@ajug.org

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                    07/03/01 04:29 PM           Subject:     RE: any
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All this has made me look into learning VB.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryant, William [mailto:mbryant@c-cor.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 04:23 PM
To: ajug-members@ajug.org
Subject: RE: any junior positions?



OK, this is starting to scare me a little...  Especially considering
that
after next week there are going to be four people left in our office
(from
more than 70 less than a year ago).  Lay-offs truly suck.  While I am
one
of
the lucky four that we still be around, I must wonder when it will be my
turn to start job hunting.


My vital stats
-------------------
1.5 yrs. server-side Java exp.
4 yrs. OO exp.
4.5 yrs. RDBMS design exp.


Just how bad is it out there, for those just starting out and for those
that
have been around for a while?   Anyone have a success story to share?

... Mike



---------------------
Mike Bryant
Sr. Software Engineer
C-COR.net
mbryant@c-cor.net
770-814-0984


-----Original Message-----
From: WillieBlue@aol.com [mailto:WillieBlue@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:18 PM
To: ajug-members@ajug.org
Subject: Re: any junior positions?


I finally gave up and am doing something else for money and do Java as a
hobby.