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Re: Posting your resume @ ajug



The recruiters are the real roadblock.  It is a sad commentary that a non-technical recruiter is the gateway between you and a job.  On a recent interview, I even had to explain what a use case was.  The recruiter knew nothing about use cases, object-modeling, etc., but she was the one that could pass me to the next level.  Needless to say, I didn't get through.
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Posting your resume @ ajug

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:20 PM
Subject: Posting your resume @ ajug

Steve,
 
        My name is Michael[Myke]Brinson, a Java Developer, and I saw that you posted
your resume to AJUG. Well  the big question. Did you receive any interest as a result
of posting your resume.  I AM LOOKING FOR A JOB in ATL and my resume is
attached.
 
THANKS
 
Myke
Myke,
 
No, not yet. I really appreciate the opportunity given to all of us to post our resume on the AJUG web site.
 
In my current experience in Atlanta there really are no jobs at all. Every single job that I have pursued in VaporJobs.com (can't use a real name) has either been "pulled" by the client, already filled, or doesn't even get mentioned when I occasionally get called back by a representative of the posting organization. I was told by one company that if they didn't post something they could not continue to use the service so I guess what they do is just continue to use job descriptions that have no substance. One staffing company representative told me that I could not be considered unless I could provide a file containing a sample of some code that I had written. When I said that all of the code I write contains a copyright which means that I can not comply, his response was that I would not be considered. The fact that you had to produce a code sample was actually stated in the job posting. This is not just VaporJobs.com. I have encountered several companies that have wonderful postings for jobs that have been posted for many months and several others that stated that they currently have a hiring freeze in effect while the jobs postings remain. All of these entities actively solicit and accept resumes which leads me to believe that the Dilbert cartoon that we saw today on this list is actually quite close to the truth.
 
Another thing that I have noticed is that if you don't have the years of experience which sometime seem to meet or exceed the time the products have existed, you're not going to be considered. What HR people and recruiters seem to have lost is the fact that this field is about constantly learning and acquiring skills, not becoming as specialized as a structural steel welder. If we can't become more flexible in our hiring practices we are going to go down the same rathole that auto manufacturers went down and all software development will probably go offshore. As an example of this particular gripe: my efforts to get a job working with embedded systems. An embedded system is basically a computer, usually small, contained in a larger system such as one of the currently popular set-top boxes which does all sorts of fantastic things with your TV. I feel that my skills and experience in real-time, digital signal processing, assembler/C/C++/Java language skills, etc. would allow me to do a great job in this field. I can't even get in the door ostensibly because I don't have an exact match for the customers requirements which were copied verbatim by the staffing company. I say ostensibly because it could be possible that the staffing company and/or the hiring party does not understand how to evaluate my skills. Isn't that a hell of a note? We all know by now that most resumes are qualified by scanning applications and not by people and we also know that applications are not as smart as the developer, well, maybe not always. A current guideline is to limit your resume to three pages. If you have been doing this work as long as I have it seems rather demeaning to have to remove part of what I think is valuable information that I want my potential employer to see. Could it be that whomever made this recommendation was not aware of the great price-performance ratio of the new disk drives.
 
I love this field and I am passionate about learning as much as I can and doing as many things as I can. I will not chop off my resume just so I can look like anybody. Over the years I have invested a lot of money, time, and energy in soaking up technology-related information and I am by no means unique. I consider myself a scientist, an engineer, and an artist. Have you ever seen some of the CVs (curriculum vitae) of accomplished university professors? They are quite long and I am sure that no one ever told them to "dumb it down".
 
Hang in there Myke. We may need to work in some other town for a while. Good Luck to everyone.
 
Steve